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Re: Mystery Roadster back on eBay

To: andycost@att.net, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Mystery Roadster back on eBay
From: "sidney raper" <spl310@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 10:40:26 -0400
Here is the deal as I suspect it went down:

I sold a 1967.5 parts car for a paltry sum to some south florida guys.  They 
had another roadster without a title.  5 minutes and a screwdriver later, 
they swapped the ID tags, and the previously untitled roadster magically 
transformed from a 65 1500(? well it looks like it is mostly that anyway) to 
a 67.5 1600 with 1500 appointments.  I do not believe that this is a case of 
a duplicate title - the ID tag on the car is from the 67.5 that I sold as 
well.

When I sold the parts car, I signed the title over to the new owners.  It 
does not look like they transferred the title - which in and of itself is 
illegal in some states but is common practice.

Sidney Raper
1964 1500
1967 SRL311 00060
1967 SRL311 00076
Jacksonville Florida
http://www.geocities.com/roadsternut/index.html




>From: andycost@att.net
>Reply-To: andycost@att.net
>To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: Mystery Roadster back on eBay
>Date: Wed, 17 Oct 2001 14:03:44 +0000
>
>I thought the issue was that Sid sold a car with the
>exact vin.  How did this guy get a title?  If I were the
>guy that bought the car from Sid I would be worried that
>the Mystery Roadster fellow would show up with a title
>and demand the car be turned over to him.  On the flip
>side, he could take a trip down to Florida and pick up a
>free Mystery Roadster.
>
>Andy
>
>BTW-  Roadsters took 1st, 2nd, and 4th on Sunday at the
>local autocross.  I got second.  Mike Steinbach got 1st
>in his beautifully restored solex 68, and his brother
>got 4th.  We beat a couple of RX7's, an IT prepared MR2,
>a V6 Fiero, a Cortina on slicks, and a nice E30 M3.  The
>Cortina was reclassed, but we beat him anyway.
> > The reality of the situation with this car is that the title is a good
> > title.  I have NEVER had anyone want to check the vin on the car - even 
>on
> > cars that were from out of state.  If they do check the vin, I bet that 
>they
> > will pop the hood and look at the vin tag - not the frame.  If they do, 
>the
> > buyer of this car is home free.  If you get someone who is very thorough 
>and
> > KNOWS ROADSTERS, then you may have an issue.
> >
> > I doubt that the new owner will have problems transferring the title.
> >
> > Sidney Raper
> > 1964 1500
> > 1967 SRL311 00060
> > 1967 SRL311 00076
> > Jacksonville Florida
> > http://www.geocities.com/roadsternut/index.html
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: L Jordan <ay107@lafn.org>
> > >Reply-To: L Jordan <ay107@lafn.org>
> > >To: Eric Frisbee <efris@home.com>
> > >CC: datsun roadsters <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > >Subject: Re: Mystery Roadster back on eBay
> > >Date: Tue, 16 Oct 2001 21:53:41 -0700
> > >
> > >I think the point is  that if you buy a car thinking you have clear 
>title
> > >but
> > >then find out you have to jump thru hoops to get it registered then 
>that is
> > >a
> > >hassle.  Yes, caveat empor, but i think if this is too easy to do then 
>I
> > >think
> > >you will see more cars (Roadsters) being stolen and "rearranged" and 
>sold.
> > >Perhaps the guy should be able to prove the car wasn't stolen upfront. 
>But
> > >sounds like he doesn't want the hassle, just wants the buyer to have 
>it.
> > >Well
> > >that's the car business isn't it?
> > >Linda
> > >
> > >Eric Frisbee wrote:
> > >
> > > > Did anyone notice that the paint codes weren't exactly Nissan 
>either??
> > >OH
> > > > MY GOD!!  Call the FBI, CIA, and the White House!!!!  We have a 
>serious
> > > > crime here!  And those rims are from an evil "Z" car...    This 
>calls
> > >for a
> > > > lynching!!!!   And the non-original black dash... and the seats.. 
>and
> > >the
> > > > steering wheel... and the 1500 grill...the missing jackhole 
>covers...
> > >and
> > > > the missing 1600 emblems!!  Where is the humanity of it all???    
>The ID
> > > > plate is all ratty and matches up with the title, yet the engine 
>number
> > >is
> > > > grossly misrepresented!   That just can't be!!!
> > > >
> > > > Ok funs over...     If you jokers knew just how many "pieced 
>together"
> > >cars
> > > > were really out there, you'd wet yourselfs calling the DMV in all 
>the
> > > > states...  This was and is common practice for those of us who live 
>East
> > >of
> > > > California... .    We are all so much luckier now to have access to 
>the
> > >many
> > > > great venders, as you Westerners have had for years.    Get over 
>your
> > > > hysteria already!
> > > >
> > > > Eric
> > > > (and yes, I have a car that the numbers don't match...  am I next to 
>be
> > > > lynched?)
> > >
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