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Re: MGTD Paint

To: "Hermance, Jonathan" <Jonathan_Hermance@ATK.COM>
Subject: Re: MGTD Paint
From: Bud Krueger <bkrueger@ici.net>
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2000 16:46:45 -0400
This week I acquired a basket case 52TD #TD18466 (Oct. 52).  The original color
shows in a number of places.  It's Silver Streak Gray.

"Hermance, Jonathan" wrote:

> Rick,
>
> Thanks for the reply.  I had thought from reading various sources that
> Silver Streak Gray (SSG) originated in 1953 as a replacement for slow
> selling Clipper Blue.  I gathered the SSG color was rare and only a few 53
> TDs and later TFs came to the US in SSG.  I have assumed my late 53 car was
> originally painted in SSG.  Your telling of silver green colors on 50 to 52
> vintage TDs indicates I may not be calling the greenish color by its proper
> name.  I would still like to determine if SSG was a metallic gray-gold paint
> with a hint of green or if it was metallic silvery gray with no green in it
> at all.  Regardless of what the greenish gray metallic color is called I
> like how it looks on my firewall and intend to use it on the rest of the
> car.  Confirming the color had a factory name and was as authentic as any of
> the reds out there would be fun.
>
> Jon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rfeibusch@loop.com [mailto:rfeibusch@loop.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 10:04 AM
> To: Hermance, Jonathan
> Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: MGTD Paint
>
> Jonathan,
> My former TD, a late 1950, was also originally painted a metalic silver
> green colour at the factory AND it also came with dark green wings, dark
> tan interior/grille slats (not available on other colours 'till the TF) and
> a white hood/toneau cover.  Mike Goodman, who owns an MG restoration shop
> here in the LA area actually restored one just like it (a '52 I believe).
> It sold to a buyer in Germany so I can't even take any pix of it for you.
> Mike said that as far as he knew, all of the metalic green cars had dark
> green wings. This colour combination was far more common on MG YA and YT
> saloons/tourers. I also understand that the interior colour might have
> changed to green leather in later years.
>
> The odd thing is that mine was purchased from the original owner(a friend
> of my aunts) who said that she had bought it in 1950 from British Motorcar
> Dist. LTD. in San Francisco in all British Racing Green!  Years later I
> asked Mr. Qvale, the owner of BMCD about this and he said that these cars
> and the metalic silver bronze painted were very unpopular so many were
> repainted before they were put on the showroom floor.
>
> There doesn't seem to be alot of structure to what was done so there might
> be more variations than we think. The silver green car looks really cool
> with the BRG wings but I would try to have a dark green canvas hood and
> dark green leather interior done to cut down on the amount of colours -
> Just my thoughts.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Rick Feibusch
> Venice, CA
>
> *************************************************************
> >
> >I have a late 53 TD I am rejuvenating.  In most unrepainted places (up
> under
> >and behind the dashboard and interior panels, underside of all removable
> >body panels, upper surface of toolbox lid carefully cleaned off with
> lacquer
> >thinner) the paint appears to be an unusual but nifty light metallic
> >greenish gray.  I have assumed this was what the factory called Silver
> >Streak Gray.  I have even had a paint shop match it in preparation for
> >taking all the panels off the car and repainting them the same color on all
> >sides.  The only place I did not find the greenish grey metallic is on a
> >front fender I do not think was ever hit or repaired.  The 1" wide strip of
> >light metallic silverish gray showed up between the holes for the three
> >chromed screws and washers that hold the splash pan across the bottom of
> the
> >radiator grill to the fender.  Clive Sheriff of Oxford UK today indicates
> >subsequent paint jobs leaching through turns gray to a light metallic green
> >all over.  Possible, but I have found pretty much the same light metallic
> >greenish gray color not covered with later paint layers as I have found
> >overcoated with later layers.  Maybe the grey ages to a green color under
> >some set of conditions I have not figured out a common denominator for.  I
> >would have had no qualms about the original color of my car having been a
> >light metallic greenish gray if I had not found the strip of silverish
> >metallic gray with no trace of green in it.
> >
> >Who out there remembers whether the Silver Streak Gray that replaced
> Clipper
> >Blue in 1953 had a hint of green metallic in it or not?  What color is the
> >TF pictured in the Classified section of the most recent MOSS Motoring?  It
> >looks greenish to me.
> >
> >Jon Hermance, SLC, UT, 54 TF, 53 TD, 70MGB-GT, 74 XJ6L
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: BobMGT@aol.com [mailto:BobMGT@aol.com]
> >Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2000 2:01 PM
> >To: elan@efortress.com
> >Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net
> >Subject: Re: MGTD Paint
> >
> >
> >Steve:
> >
> >    My understanding is that the TD does not have a paint code on the ID
> >plate. You may never know the original color. But, on the other hand, you
> >have the freedom to choose a color and no one can claim it's not original.
> >Also no one knows how many colors MG actually used. A friend in the local
> >club here is the original owner of a light green metallic TD and he can
> >prove
> >it came from the factory that way!
> >
> >
> >In a message dated 5/31/00 7:26:35 PM !!!First Boot!!!, elan@efortress.com
> >writes:
> >
> >> I am trying to find the origional paint colors for a 1953 MGTD. Does the
> >>  ID plate have the interior/exterior codes on it?
> >>  Steve
> >
> >
> >Bob Donahue (Still stuck in the '50s)
> >EMAIL - BOBMGT@AOL.COM
> >52 MGTD - under DIY restoration NEMGTR #11470
> >71 MGB   - AMGBA #96-12029, NAMGBR #7-3336

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Bud Krueger
http://home.ici.net/~bkrueger/
52TD
77MGB



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