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From: "gs96" <gs96@sgi.net>
To: <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2001 9:35 AM
Subject: Re: Proposal for SP cars to compete in P ???
> Bruce, I imagine the weight penalty is based on the
> published minimums for Prepared cars. For example if
> the minimum weight for my car in AP trim is 2200 lbs
> and I want to run AP but in SP trim I might have to
> weigh 2400 lbs.
My point is that there are no specified weights for SP. Their
weight is controlled indirectly by what is allowed to be removed
or changed. Gutting for weight removal is specifically disallowed.
A prepared version of an SP car, after doing the gutting and
stripping allowed and then ballasted back to min weight is still
going to be a lot lighter than the equivalent SP car. How do you
determine how much ballast to add to the SP car? They have no
weight/cc or lb/cu.in. spec. like prepared does to simplify the
imposition of weight penalties.
>
> My problem with the proposal is the DOT tire
> requirement. The main reason I'd like to run Prepared
> instead of SP (or SM) is to use slicks. If they are
> introducing weight penalties anyway, why can't they
> just have a weight penalty for slicks on
> wider-than-stock 17" (or 18") rims? They could add
> significant weight penalties to protect the current
> Prepared competitors and still not inhibit most of the
> SP competitors running the big wheels who want to try
> slicks and run in Prepared.
They are free to do that now. Bolt on the slicks and come run with us.
You don't need a new rule to be able to run in a "higher "class.
I find it hard to believe that there are STILL apparently not enough classes
and categories to make everyone happy. We now have
STOCK
STREET PREPARED
STREET-MOD (AND THE "ST" CLASSES)
PREPARED
MODIFIED
These groups are distinctly different in levels of modification allowed
and, I believe, pretty well thought out for the most part. This idea of
"accomodating" cars from other groups just doesn't make sense to me.
If you want to run another group with a different level of preparation,
then step up to the plate and do it.
How about this proposal;
"All Prepared class cars built to the prepared rules will be
allowed
to run in their respective STOCK class on a DOT tire with a minimum
tread wear rating of 280. Cars must run on their specified prepared class
wheel width."
Think that would screw up the stock classes? Tell me how it makes less sense
than the SP-to-P idea.
> Kent Rafferty
> (yes, I'll write a letter)
>
>
> M.Soar quoted:
> "The PAC is considering a proposal to accommodate
> Street Prepared cars (which are not subject to the
> wheel size and induction
> limitations of most Prepared classes)
Not mentioned; P cars can make a LOT of internal engine mods
and use any trans, rear, susp, etc. I thnk the SP cars would get killed
(for the most part) so why bother? The next thing to happen is the
ex-SP guys saying they are not competetive (DUH!) and then we
could make a bunch of rule changes to help them out and that would
simply mess everything up and cost everyone a lot of money trying to
meet the new rules.
within the
> existing Prepared category. Such cars would be required
> to use DOT-approved tires and would be subject to
> weight penalties."
They already have a weight penalty; see above.
Bruce
EP Pinto
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