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RE: SVRA Points

To: psr@mnw.net, alder_rj@ix.netcom.com
Subject: RE: SVRA Points
From: "Mark Palmer" <mgvrmark@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 07:46:40 PDT
BTW, the incident I described was not at an SVRA event, it was a different 
vintage organization.

Mark


>From: psr@mnw.net (PSR)
>Reply-To: psr@mnw.net (PSR)
>To: "Robert Alder" <alder_rj@ix.netcom.com>
>CC: <vintage-race@autox.team.net>
>Subject: RE: SVRA Points
>Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 08:35:54 -0500
>
>I'll interrupt this thread at this point because the clear differences of
>opinion, just on this one incident, serve to illustrate precisely the 
>reason
>why SVRA has a points system.
>
>SVRA's 3-driver committee (with the sole power to put you on the trailer)
>has been an effective disciplinary device over many many years.  Generally
>the parties get a fair and complete hearing and the Safety Steward has done
>his homework with hardware inspections and worker reports.  The fact that
>the organizers are excluded from the proceedings helps assure that loss of
>revenue or politics does not intrude in the decision.
>
>Sam White and Carl Jensen, former Driver's Committee Chiefs, were concerned
>by the fact that though the quality of the decisions were generally
>consistent from event to event, the penalties weren't.  Two "throw the book
>at 'em" participants in this thread might put a driver on the trailer for 6
>events while two others might give him a one race probation.  Their points
>system deals with this and the penalties now are much more consistent.
>
>I have served on the committee and been in front of it. I agree with the
>general mood, however, that the penalties are too light and the deterrent
>has lost some of its effectiveness.  Perhaps the next version should have
>some ranges of punishment.
>
>I am not in agreement with SVRA's current practice of having only two
>drivers and a voting Safety Steward, Walt McCarthy.  When the points system
>was put into effect the committee consisted of a permanent Drivers 
>Committee
>Chief, who did not vote and was charged with conducting the hearings at 
>each
>event, three drivers and the Safety Steward, who was not involved in the
>decision process.  The driver's committee position has been lost, along 
>with
>the Competition Director's position, to the new "cost-effective",
>cash-flow-positive, SVRA.
>
>I am interested in how many SVRA members were aware of this change and how
>many just learned about it here.  Let me know, and more importantly let
>Claire and Peter know whether you like it or not.
>
>Pat Ryan
>SVRA Member since 1988
>
>
> >Car #1 loss of control was not intentional and he was remorseful, but he
> >caused damage, damnit.  Shouldn't there be a sanction of some
> >sort?????????????  To cause damage (especially to OTHERS)  without being
> >sanctioned is at the heart of the problem, is it not?
>
> >>In the incident I described, the driver's committee found drivers #2 and
>#3
> >>blameless.  Driver #1 was reprimanded for careless shifting, but no
> >>probation or suspension.  He was quite remorseful, his car was banged 
>up,
> >>and it was a mistake, not aggressiveness.
> >>
> >>Mark Palmer
> >>MGA #185
>
>
>


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