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Re: cloud of smoke on start-up

To: "HUBBARD, Charles" <chubbard@shl.com>
Subject: Re: cloud of smoke on start-up
From: james moore <jmoore1@erols.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Aug 1999 22:57:43 -0400
One other thing you might want to try is to do is crude "cylinder leakdown"
test. With some basic air hose parts and a compression gauge you can pressurize
the cylinders. Then see how long it takes for that pressure to leakdown. While
you are doing this, keep the radiator cap off and look for bubbles in the
coolant when the cylinders are pressurized.

Jim Moore
69 RHD Fairlady

"HUBBARD, Charles" wrote:

> Matt,
>
> I think you may want to perform a compression test before you pull the head.
> That would at least help rule out other likely problems.  Sounds like you
> could have an oil  ring out on one of your pistons or valve trouble. Pull
> the plugs and see if any are gas or oil soaked.  See if someone else in the
> area can test for hydrocarbons in the radiator.  That is an important test.
> My personal experience is that it's not worth pulling the head until you
> have some idea what you are trying to fix.
>
> Charlie Hubbard
> 1964 SPL310
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Matt Peterson [mailto:pete_303@hotmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 1999 9:44 PM
> To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> Subject: cloud of smoke on start-up
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> Thank you for your responses.  I leaned out the carbs and that helped the
> start up problem and lessened the darkness of the exhaust somewhat but the
> exhaust still is whitish.  I put my finger in the tailpipe for a few seconds
>
> and pulled it out wet and sooty.  It seems to be running the same as when I
> bought it a year and a half ago only the exhaust seems to have a little more
>
> color to it.  And it seems to be getting worse slowly.
>
> I had it checked for a head gasket leak about a month ago and the guy said
> that he couldn't find anything wrong with it.  However, he couldn't do a
> "sniffer" test because his setup wouldn't fit the car.
>
> I think I'm going to pull the head soon just to see what is going on.
>
> Matt Peterson
> '68 1600 with a 3-main bearing
> Zimmerman, Mn
>
> >From: P or T <p-pie@sympatico.ca>
> >Reply-To: p-pie@sympatico.ca
> >To: Matt Peterson <pete_303@hotmail.com>,        Datsun List
> ><datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> >Subject: Re: cloud of smoke on start-up
> >Date: Tue, 24 Aug 1999 00:17:41 -0400
> >
> >YIKES!
> >
> >White smoke may not be a good sign, as the white aspect is quite
> >possibly steam, made from water in the coolant....check this out: do you
> >have any oil under your rad cap?  Is there any coolant in your oil pan?
> >I would be willing to bet that your new hot starting problems are
> >directly related.
> >
> >Matt Peterson wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everyone,
> > >
> > > I was curious as to what a cloud of whitish blue exhaust means on
> >start-up.
> > > After the car has sit for awhile on start-up it will expel a good amount
>
> >of
> > > whitish smoke from the exhaust then it diminishes although the exhaust
> >is
> > > still visible.  Could oil be leaking into the cylinders when it sits?
> > >
> > > Another question.  When my car is started up cold I don't need to give
> >it
> > > any gas to start it.  However, if the engine is still hot I need to
> >depress
> > > the gas pedal to the floor in order for it to start up.  It just started
> > > this one day a few weeks ago and it is getting annoying.  I have no idea
> > > what could be causing it to do this.
> > >
> > > Any help would be appreciated!
> > >
> > > thank you,
> > >
> > > Matt Peterson
> > > '68 1600
> > > Zimmerman, MN


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