I don't have it. I have however just gotten replys back from the museum at
Watkins Glen and they can't find either the body or anything on a TOBIN BMW
328. I'll look around for the book
thanks
kerry stagmer
-----Original Message-----
From: Roger Sieling [mailto:Rogsie@telesistech.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2000 8:51 AM
To: vintage-race@autox.team.net; racecar@baltimoreknife.com
Subject: Re: FW: Speedvisioon coverage of Watkins and Lime Rock
Do you have the Watkins Glen book they were selling 2 or 3 years ago? It's
great, with lots of period still photos.
Roger
>>> "Baltimore Knife & Sword Co." <racecar@baltimoreknife.com> 11/28/00
08:11PM >>>
I agree, as someone who has been looking for a specific no-name special in
vintage (50's) racing movies. While we all love to see the same Astons,
Jags and Ferrari in the front rows, it sure would be great to see some
back
of the pack stuff from the old days. I know your talking about coverage
at
modern vintage races (boy that sounds odd!), but this problem has always
been around so maybe it's 'Vintage reporting'! If anyone has 50's movies
from the NY area (limerock,watkins) that may show more of the pack I'd be
very interested in copies!
kerry stagmer
racecar@baltimoreknife.com
BTW I didn't miss the Morgan......
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of Kerry Seibert
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 7:04 PM
To: LMR356@aol.com; Tombread@aol.com; John.Desantis@inficon.com;
vintage-race@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: Speedvisioon coverage of Watkins and Lime Rock
Some wag once said that unless you spin, crash, or are leading, you don't
stand a chance of seeing yourself on the Speedvisions broadcasts and
coverage from the past few years seems to support this. However Lee
brings
up a great point: some of the best action DOES take place much further
back.
I'd much rather see 4-5 talented drivers driving different marques
"fighting it out" for 10th place than one or two guys breaking away in
obviously superior cars and cruising around for the duration. And why do
we
have to listen to 3 minutes of that lame doowap group at the Glen? Show
me
a guy balancing his SUs, or 3 minutes of a V12 howling, or anything car
related. And I thought even the color and sound quality of the broadcasts
were vastly inferior to the Goodwood shows.
Cheers, Craig Seibert 1968 Morgan +8 car no. 611 "Duff
Morgan
Racing"
PS If you missed me at LR, you blinked. Was the grossly underpowered
(mis-classed) Morgan amongst the Shelbys and Cobras (Group 5). Never got a
mention as the only British car (OK, the Cobras . . . .) in the group nor
did anyone get to see my nifty outside move at Big Bend passing 4 of the
Shelbys at the start. Held 'em off for a lap or two! AND, finished ahead
of the Pantera - he broke on lap 9!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net
[mailto:owner-vintage-race@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of LMR356@aol.com
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2000 12:41 PM
To: Tombread@aol.com; John.Desantis@inficon.com;
vintage-race@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Speedvisioon coverage of Watkins and Lime Rock
In a message dated 11/28/00 12:04:10 PM Eastern Standard Time,
Tombread@aol.com writes:
> > These events are
> > suppose to be about the cars
> > but the coverage was almost exclusively of the top 3 cars in each
class.
> > What gives Speedvision?
> >
>
While its always great to see hour long coverage of any premier vintage
event....I tend to agree with you. The same production company ( Lingner
Group Productions) has been utilized since the 1995 Lime Rock Vintage
Festival (originally ESPN) ...and their shooting/editing format remains
virtually unchanged. Perhaps it's time for the show's producers to let
Bob
Akin talk about the other drivers ....who are racing their cars just as
competitively ...somewhere in the middle of the pack. And how covering
those
back markers doing the exact same thing? Write to www.Speedvision.com
...let them have your thoughts!
Best racing,
Lee Raskin
Arnolt-B and 356ers
(Co-producer with Brock Yates...James Dean At High Speed, for Speedvision,
1998)
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