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Re: Oil coolers and rocker feeders

To: "Ted Schumacher" <tedtsimx@q1.net>, "Terry L. Thompson" <tlt@digex.net>
Subject: Re: Oil coolers and rocker feeders
From: "Edward Hamilton" <hamilton@ptd.net>
Date: Sat, 25 Sep 1999 09:29:23 -0400
Ted,
You short changed us by $0.01.  Where is your opinion concerning the rocker
feed line?

Ed Hamilton
----- Original Message -----
From: Ted Schumacher <tedtsimx@q1.net>
To: Terry L. Thompson <tlt@digex.net>
Cc: wizardz <wizardz@maxinter.net>; <spitfires@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 25, 1999 9:18 AM
Subject: Re: Oil coolers and rocker feeders


>
> ok, here's my $.02 worh.  first on the coolers.  a cooler  used to
compensate
> for an internal engine problem or a cooling system problem is not
beneficial,
> it's a bandaid.  if all systems are good and you really have a high oil
temp
> (drive the car hard for a few miles and immediately pull the filter and
stick a
> thermometer into the filter for oil temp) install a cooler.  we sell
coolers and
> lines but do not sell a pre-plumbed "kit"  the kit forces you to put the
cooler
> where somebody else deciced it needed to be.  also we caustion against
using the
> "sandwich" type cooler take-off that fits between the block adn the
filter. this
> puts the filter too close to the suspension upright and forces you to use
a
> small filter.  a 10 row cooler is more than adequate for a street driven
car
> even with perfomrance engine mods.  DO NOT BUY A USED OIL COOLER!!!!!
since it
> is not possible to clean out a cooler completely - it's aluminum and
cannot be
> "boiled" as you would boil a cast iron block - if the cooler had ever been
on an
> engine that had a blowup (bad rod bearing, broken piston, etc) the
particles are
> resting in the bottom of the cooler.  the oil flow carries these particles
in
> suspension. when the engine was shut down, the particles fall to the
bottom of
> the cooler.  rebuild the engine, start up and presto, the oil picks up the
> particles adn there goes the engine. remeber you are working with bearing
> clearances in the .0015" to .002" category. one .003" particle of aluminum
will
> wipe out a bearing.
> early spits had a "windage tray stock. this was a piece of fine screen for
lack
> of a better description that filled the area over the deep portion of the
pan.
> windage trays keep the oil from splashing up so the throws of the
crankshaft
> will go through these sprays of oil this robs power. example, for $16 you
can
> buy a windage tray for a big block dodge. installation gives 12 hp
increase on a
> dyno just because the crank does not encounter the drag of fighting its
way
> through the oil spray. remeber, the engine becomes an air pum in the oil
pan
> from the force of the pistons moving down and pushing a volume of air into
the
> pan.  very similar to being is a subway statiion andyou can feel the air
> arriving before you see the train.  ted
>
> Terry L. Thompson wrote:
>
> > I'm not using an rocker oil feed kit, but...
> >
> > I've heard from a couple of people that rocker-oil feed pipes tend to
> > rob oil from the areas that rely on it's lubrication even more...the
> > main bearings. And have another bad quality of making the oil even
> > more foamy than it already is from the oil pump (it aerates the oil
> > even more).
> >
> > I was watching hot-rod magazine when they put a sump pan on that had a
> > tray that from my recollection had a mesh to it (like a siv) that
supposedly
> > kept aeration in the oil to a minimum.
> >
> > Would something like that work on a spitfire oil pan? One of the
performance
> > upgrades was to increase the depth of the oil pan and put in a "curved"
oil
> > pump. I've wondered if that would give room for such an item. (Ted?)
> >
> > -Terry
> >
> > At 08:46 AM 9/22/99 -0400, you wrote:
> > >
> > >Seriously people....  on your Spitfires
> > >
> > >how many of you are actually running an oil cooler?
> > >(Y)es     (N)o
> > >how many of you are actually running an exterior rocker oil feed pipe?
> > >(Y)es     (N)o
> > >
> > >Paul Tegler
> > >1973 BGT - Daily Driver
> > >Rat - 1980 Spitfire  w/  O/D - in re-hab
> > >Punkin' - 1978 Spitfire - in Superb Shape!
> > >email: wizardz@toad.net        http://www.teglerizer.com
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
>
>
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