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RE: Oil coolers and rocker feeders

To: "'Ted Schumacher'" <tedtsimx@q1.net>
Subject: RE: Oil coolers and rocker feeders
From: "Childs, David" <dchilds@epri.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 05:09:46 -0700
I put one of those spin on oil filter adapters on my GT6 motor.  The big
problem I had is the stupid thing leaks!  I can not get the thing to fit
properly against the block.  What I did is put 2 of the rubber gaskets that
fit into the groove on the block.  Now I wonder if I am making good contact
around the oil inlet on the block.  As Ted said, I had to relocate my oil
filter.  I am not happy with the way it all came out.  Ted do you have any
pictures of the your system.

Dave C
Spit 6


        -----Original Message-----
        From:   Ted Schumacher [SMTP:tedtsimx@q1.net]
        Sent:   Saturday, September 25, 1999 1:14 PM
        To:     spitlist@gte.net
        Cc:     Terry L. Thompson; wizardz; Spitfire List
        Subject:        Re: Oil coolers and rocker feeders


        joe, right you are about sandwich type and i probably already know
why you mentioned
        tying off the hoses.  yes, as a matter of fact we do offer
alternatives.  we can
        supply a take off, remote filter and cooler with fittings. you can
either use
        steelbraid orubber high pressure hose. we can also give you extra
oil (and oil
        cooling) capacity without going to a cooler.  end of commercial.
please contact us
        for details. ted

        Joe Curry wrote:

        > Ted Schumacher wrote:
        > >
        > > ok, here's my $.02 worh.  first on the coolers.  a cooler  used
to compensate
        > > for an internal engine problem or a cooling system problem is
not beneficial,
        > > it's a bandaid.  if all systems are good and you really have a
high oil temp
        > > (drive the car hard for a few miles and immediately pull the
filter and stick a
        > > thermometer into the filter for oil temp) install a cooler.  we
sell coolers and
        > > lines but do not sell a pre-plumbed "kit"  the kit forces you to
put the cooler
        > > where somebody else deciced it needed to be.  also we caustion
against using the
        > > "sandwich" type cooler take-off that fits between the block adn
the filter. this
        > > puts the filter too close to the suspension upright and forces
you to use a
        > > small filter.
        >
        > I'll second that!  However, it is difficult to find any other type
being
        > sold by the "major" suppliers.  I'll bet you can tell us where we
can
        > get a different type!  If you do use the sandwiched type, be
        > absolutely sure that the hoses are securely tied away from the
steering
        > coupler.  Otherwise the coupler will chafe through the hose and
the oil
        > comes out that place in a big hurry! (Don't ask how I know).
        >
        >  a 10 row cooler is more than adequate for a street driven car
        > > even with perfomrance engine mods.  DO NOT BUY A USED OIL
COOLER!!!!!  since it
        > > is not possible to clean out a cooler completely - it's aluminum
and cannot be
        > > "boiled" as you would boil a cast iron block - if the cooler had
ever been on an
        > > engine that had a blowup (bad rod bearing, broken piston, etc)
the particles are
        > > resting in the bottom of the cooler.  the oil flow carries these
particles in
        > > suspension. when the engine was shut down, the particles fall to
the bottom of
        > > the cooler.  rebuild the engine, start up and presto, the oil
picks up the
        > > particles adn there goes the engine. remeber you are working
with bearing
        > > clearances in the .0015" to .002" category. one .003" particle
of aluminum will
        > > wipe out a bearing.
        > > early spits had a "windage tray stock. this was a piece of fine
screen for lack
        > > of a better description that filled the area over the deep
portion of the pan.
        > > windage trays keep the oil from splashing up so the throws of
the crankshaft
        > > will go through these sprays of oil this robs power. example,
for $16 you can
        > > buy a windage tray for a big block dodge. installation gives 12
hp increase on a
        > > dyno just because the crank does not encounter the drag of
fighting its way
        > > through the oil spray. remeber, the engine becomes an air pum in
the oil pan
        > > from the force of the pistons moving down and pushing a volume
of air into the
        > > pan.  very similar to being is a subway statiion andyou can feel
the air
        > > arriving before you see the train.  ted
        >
        > Very good assessment Ted!
        >
        > Joe
        >
        > --
        > "If you can't excel with talent, triumph with effort."
        >  -- Dave Weinbaum in National Enquirer

        

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