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RE: MGTD Paint

To: "'rfeibusch@loop.com'" <rfeibusch@loop.com>
Subject: RE: MGTD Paint
From: "Hermance, Jonathan" <Jonathan_Hermance@ATK.COM>
Date: Fri, 2 Jun 2000 10:10:50 -0500
Rick,

The color I am trying to identify and name is definitely a metallic paint.
Silver-green, goldish-green, and pewterish silver all, I'm afraid, could
apply under different light conditions to most of the examples I have found
on my car.  The paint shop I took the tool box lid and front splash pan
samples from my car to, started their match with a gold metallic
Sherwin-Williams acrylic enamel.  I paid them to record their recipe in case
I needed more of the same color - whatever it is.  The original faded
interior of my car is red as are the slats in the grill.

Do you have the most recent British Motoring magazine from MOSS Motors with
the MGA Race car on the cover?  There is a TF 1500 pictured in the
classified section that is representative of the greenish, maybe slightly
goldy grey color I think I remember on a fresh-looking TF 1500 with red
piping at the Whistler, B.C. GoF and that I think my 53 TD once looked like.
Opinions as to the name of that TF's color would be of interest to me.

Bud Kruegar on this T List believes the original paint on his car to be a
light shade of silvery grey with no hint of green or gold.  This color
description would correspond with the strip of color I found between the
chromed screw holes on the section of my front fender covered by the splash
pan that fits across under the grill.

Bob Howard of this T List thinks his TD purchased by his father is the Sun
Bronze color.  He describes under various lighting conditions a series of
colors that could be describing my car.  I am curious if he might actually
have Silver Streak Grey because my impression of Sun Bronze is that it is
more a dark reddish brown than a grey.

Clive Sheriff of Oxford UK and this T List suggests Silver Streak Grey may
leach/oxidize/age from grey to a light metallic green.

So maybe I am going to paint my car something called Metallic Aged Greenish
Moldy Goldy Grey and I'm going to like it that way.

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: rfeibusch@loop.com [mailto:rfeibusch@loop.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 6:42 PM
To: Hermance, Jonathan
Cc: mg-t@autox.team.net
Subject: RE: MGTD Paint


Jon,
>From what I understand, there were probably three metalic colours that were
available in one form or another on MG TDs. A silver-green similar to that
light green Hammerite that tool boxes were painted in the 1950s (like
mine), a light metalic goldish-silver and a pewter-ish silver colour. Only
the green was ever seen with the dark wings. My friend and British Car
expert, writer Harry Newton, who sold these cars new in New York City when
they were new says that they never did any two-tone cars at the factory and
that they HAD to have been done at the dealership but I know what I found
on my own car and Mike Goodman also says that they did so I BELIEVE!!!
Harry just might have never seen one. I've seen a number of MG YAs in the
same two tone sos I knows that they gots the paint.

Cheers,

Rick


>Rick,
>
>Thanks for the reply.  I had thought from reading various sources that
>Silver Streak Gray (SSG) originated in 1953 as a replacement for slow
>selling Clipper Blue.  I gathered the SSG color was rare and only a few 53
>TDs and later TFs came to the US in SSG.  I have assumed my late 53 car was
>originally painted in SSG.  Your telling of silver green colors on 50 to 52
>vintage TDs indicates I may not be calling the greenish color by its proper
>name.  I would still like to determine if SSG was a metallic gray-gold
paint
>with a hint of green or if it was metallic silvery gray with no green in it
>at all.  Regardless of what the greenish gray metallic color is called I
>like how it looks on my firewall and intend to use it on the rest of the
>car.  Confirming the color had a factory name and was as authentic as any
of
>the reds out there would be fun.
>
>Jon


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