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Re: IN RE: Mechanical Failures

To: WSpohn4@aol.com, carlynneracing@home.com, vintage-race@autox.team.net,
Subject: Re: IN RE: Mechanical Failures
From: PaceCars@aol.com
Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2000 16:42:19 EST
I remember a "Cobra" that used to run at Green Valley Raceway in Texas in the 
mid-1960s. It came over from Mexico, and was an Ace-Bristol (original big 
grill) with a Ford V-8. It apeared to be stock Ace otherwise, except for a 
lurid mural of a huge Cobra snake that covered the hood. I wish I had taken 
photos of it. Of course, it was easy meat for a mid-pack Corvette, but it was 
raced as a Cobra at the time. At CVAR we classify cars by the old SCCA regs, 
but cars built outside the SCCA regs (but to other period regs like FIA or 
RAC) are allowed to run but are classified where we think is appropriate. If 
this old car showed up in original trim we would leave it in B-Production. If 
it were modified beyond period Series 1 Cobra (worm and sector) specs it 
would be put in exhibitiion (a non-racing touring group).
Harold Pace
CVAR Regulations
In a message dated 11/28/00 2:42:33 PM, WSpohn4@aol.com writes:

<<  Dean is not saying that vintage race cars should appear as they did the 
day
> they rolled off the showroom floor. Rather, (as an example), stuffing a 260
> 

Interesting issue. I agree that you can't make a new Tiger, or stick a V8 
into whatever you like and call it a vintage race car. But there are a few 
cars that were originally modified, if not when new, then early in their 
lives.

I have a friend that owned an AC Ace that had a Ford V8 stuck into it. He 
always figured it might have been a prototype done by Shelby, but was never 
able to prove it (much to his financial detriment, I am sure). It was done so 
early in it's life that they used a 260 cu.in. engine. He raced it on club 
days at Westwood in the 70s.

Presumably that particular car would be allowed to run in vintage in that 
configuration, but no one else would (or for that matter) should be allowed 
to take an original AC and stick the same engine in just to go faster, and 
expect to race in vintage. Have I got the gist of the rules correct?

If so, doesn't it mean that you might have a small industry (well maybe that 
overstates it, but at least a tendency for) finding cars that were modified 
in the old days, or maybe even (and I think of Ferraris here) manufacturing 
history to suit you?

"For sale - MGTD that had a Corvette engine installed in 1958. It was rolled 
up in a ball in 1959, mind you, but all you need is a good TD, the serial 
number plate from my car, some racing pictures, and Bob's your uncle........"


Bill Spohn
(who might be on the cynical side, being a lawyer, but on the other hand.....)

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