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RE: Title question

To: "'Bill Miller'" <millerb@netusa1.net>
Subject: RE: Title question
From: "Simmons, Reid W" <reid.w.simmons@intel.com>
Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:43:35 -0700
Bill;

You forgot number 4.

4) "Never trust a seller that claims to have 'another interested buyer', and
the first with the money gets the item."

Reid
'79 Spitfire (original owner)


 -----Original Message-----
From:   Bill Miller [mailto:millerb@netusa1.net] 
Sent:   Tuesday, September 28, 1999 6:28 PM
To:     Peter S.
Cc:     Spitfire List
Subject:        RE: Title question


When I contacted them they said they had another interested buyer,
and the first with the money got the car.

One: Never buy a car off of eBay without sending someone to actually see and
touch it.  I'm sure  I could have asked the list, and someone was close
enough to St Louis to check it out for me. and,

Two: Never send a deposit money order in advance.

Three: Always ask if it has a title.

Thanks,
Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter S. [mailto:alfapete@pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 4:10 PM
To: Bill Miller; spitfires@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Title question


You put a deposit without seeing it?  Is that right?
I think Ebay must have a lot problems like this.  Except that there is
usually a photograph and lots of written description to support it.
How far away are you from the seller.  If you don't want the car I'd suggest
suing the seller and based on what you've said you'd win.  Although you
should exhaust all other efforts before tying up the justice system.
When I call about a car I always ask about title and if they are the owner.
If they have a problem with these question then you don't want to do
business with them.
Messy, very messy.  Best of luck to you.
PS

----- Original Message -----
From: Bill Miller <millerb@netusa1.net>
To: <spitfires@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, September 28, 1999 11:07 AM
Subject: Title question


>
> I bought a very early 71 spit in missouri.  I was told that it was
complete,
> and not that bad of shape.  Well when I got there, it was in a lot worse
> shape than I expected!  Rot in rear wings, NO floorboards, motor
incomplete
> (though "SAH tuned") and frozen, and unfortunately NO TITLE!  At least the
> frame was solid and it had a restorable hardtop.  Well, I tried to back
out
> do to "no title" and they would not return my deposit.  Several agruments
> later, I wound up taking it home with a signed, complete, bill of sale for
> just the deposit ($375) but no title.  I had a cop friend run the
commission
> number and the vehicle was not stolen.  Do any of you have a clue how to
get
> a title, or is this poor spit going to be a parts donor only.  A friend at
> work suggested Hemmings, but I can't find anything in the latest copy.  I
> hate to part out a "restorable" spit, but what can you do without a
title??
>
> Bill
>


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