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Re: enough is not enough, or is it?

To: "Ray" <spook01@home.com>
Subject: Re: enough is not enough, or is it?
From: "Pip Bucknell" <mgwizard@caloundra.net>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:24:20 +1000
Cc: "MMM List UK" <mg-mmm@autox.team.net>
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Reply-to: "Pip Bucknell" <mgwizard@caloundra.net>
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Guys,

 Is that really the case.  That is, were PA's converted to PB's.

The chassis was made as a chassis & supplied to MG.  There must have been
some internal numbering system as the guarantee plate was given the chassis
number during manufacture & the engine number stamped on at a later date -
presumably when the engine was allocated to the chassis.

So when was the PA chassis (that was converted to a PB) a car ?  Or was a
chassis that was designated to be a PA, re designated to become a PB
(primarily different gear box, engine & Radiator Grill along with
instrumentation.)

Did they really pull apart some PA's & make them into PB's.

As the guarantee period started when the car was sold, wasn't that when it
became a PB - when sold as a PB rather than when manufacturing commenced or
was finished.

Brian Kelly raises the issue that :-
"1935. July. PA 2068 converted to PB 0251.
>     August.  PB 0252 - 0276 manufactured.

Somebody else raised the comment that PA's started out as P's & became PA
when the PB was thought up.

Well how early did PA get first stamped on Guarantee plate ?  I have seen
one PA 1668.  Any earlier ones noted?

Regards

Pip

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ray" <spook01@home.com>
To: <Kellmg@aol.com>; <mg-mmm@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 12:51 PM
Subject: Re: enough is not enough, or is it?


> Well, we know for certain that some PA's became PB's...
> Ray
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Kellmg@aol.com>
> To: <mg-mmm@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 07, 2002 8:41 PM
> Subject: Re: enough is not enough, or is it?
>
>
> > In a message dated 01/07/2002 8:12:30 PM Central Standard Time,
> > mgtom@bright.net writes:
> >
> >
> > > NO. The first PB was a genuine PB as were most of the early ones like
my
> > > black PB0268.
> > >
> >
> > Hi Tom,
> >
> > I always found Terry Andrews article titled "The P-Type- An Evaluation
> from
> > The Works Factory Files." MMM year Book 1982, to be authoritative.
> >
> > If you don't have a copy, it reads,
> >
> > 1935. July. PA 2068 converted to PB 0251.
> >     August.  PB 0252 - 0276 manufactured.
> >
> > It, also, notes that the earlier  numbered PA chassis 0589-0613 were
> > converted later. December.
> >
> > ????
> >
> >  Brian.
> >
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