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Val VR1 20/50 racing oil--"High Zinc". Been using in it my Healey and XKE =
for a long time.
----- Original Message -----
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
To: Wayne Schultz <waschu2@gmail.com>, healeys@autox.team.net, Perry <heale=
yguy@aol.com>
Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 01:05:32 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives
You can get "Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50" for Harley Davidson type motorcycles in=
a pinch. It contains the ZDDP required for our cars. If you want convent=
ional oil I have used Kendall GT-1 Competition 20W-50 in my Healeys and MGB=
for years. All the ZDDP you need plus other additives to protect your fol=
lowers and camshaft at shutdown. You can get the Kendall oil at Pacific No=
rthwest or Amazon or directly from Kendall. Search around the internet for=
the best price. You can find it for half the price of the Mobil 1 V-Twin =
synthetic oil.
British Parts Northwest Kendall GT-1 High Performance 20W-50 Oil
British Parts Northwest Kendall GT-1 High Performance 20W-50 OilThe correct=
motor oil is getting harder and hard to find for your Classic British car.=
Don't believe that the o...
Mike MacLean
On Monday, April 27, 2020, 6:53:28 PM PDT, Perry via Healeys <healeys@auto=
x.team.net> wrote:
Listers / WayneI was thinking about the way the cam lobes are lubricated in=
the original configuration ( stock parts). Please chime in if this is way =
off.It would seem most of the lubrication comes from the steady drip that c=
omes out at the rocker and runs down the pushrod. First the tappets (lifter=
s) get some oil, then passes by the lifter and then on to the cam lobe.The =
oil dripping from the rocker shaft bushings drips onto the top of the head =
and drops through the pushrod holes to the lifter gallery. On some worn out=
engines this is a flood instead of a drip. Then you have the oil fog that =
is in the crank case/oil pan area when the engine is running due to the squ=
irt of oil coming out of the piston rods big ends. The intent was to oil do=
wn the piston bores but coats pretty much everything.The bucket lifters, wh=
ich by the way was an old hot rod trick from the early days of Austin Heale=
ys, using lighter weight lifters out of a straight eight Oldsmobile (if I r=
emember correctly) and longer pushrods may or may not be drilled to allow o=
il to the cam lobe/lifter face. Some guys used pressurized oil to squirt th=
e interface when the bucket was not drilled. The bucket lifters sold years =
ago that did not have a hole in the lifters had failure problems. A hole wa=
s added but the problem with the drilled hole in the bucket it could clog a=
nd there was little to no lubrication of the cam lobes, thus major wear. I=
=E2=80=99m not suggesting that the can lobe failure was caused by a plugged=
hole in the lifter since I did not work on this engine. But it is a possib=
ility.Perry Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Wayne SchultzSent: Monday, =
April 27, 2020 4:49 PMTo: healeys@autox.team.netSubject: [Healeys] Oil Addi=
tives Hello everyone, I recently completed a rebuild of the engine in my He=
aley 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dropped my =
oil pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block that lined=
up with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always had good=
oil pressure and a very quiet motor. I pulled the motor and upon teardown=
I found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild pitting. I tho=
ught about how I used my car and came to conclusion I, rather than the oil=
might be the reason for the cam failure. I drove my car every couple of =
weeks in nice weather. This is just enough time for the oil to leave the ca=
m and lifters to drain into the pan. This meant the next time I started the=
engine the cam and lifters might have been metal on metal. My new lifters=
are short bucket lifters with a drain hole to lubricate the cam lobes. Now=
using VR-1 20/50 _______________________________________________Support T=
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50 racing oil--"High Zinc". Been using in it my Healey and XKE for a =
long time.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div><br></div><div>---=
-- Original Message -----<br>From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.=
net><br>To: Wayne Schultz <waschu2@gmail.com>, healeys@autox.team.=
net, Perry <healeyguy@aol.com><br>Sent: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 01:05:32 -04=
00 (EDT)<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives<br></div><div><br></div><d=
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tr">You can get "Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50" for Harley Davidson type motorcycle=
s in a pinch. It contains the ZDDP required for our cars. If yo=
u want conventional oil I have used Kendall GT-1 Competition 20W-50 in my H=
ealeys and MGB for years. All the ZDDP you need plus other additives =
to protect your followers and camshaft at shutdown. You can get the K=
endall oil at Pacific Northwest or Amazon or directly from Kendall. S=
earch around the internet for the best price. You can find it for hal=
f the price of the Mobil 1 V-Twin synthetic oil.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">=
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</div><div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>=
</div><div id=3D"yahoo_quoted_8172872484" class=3D"yahoo_quoted"><div style=
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lvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; color: #26282a;"><div><br> On =
Monday, April 27, 2020, 6:53:28 PM PDT, Perry via Healeys <healeys@autox=
.team.net> wrote:<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div id=3D=
"yiv5086684710"><div><div class=3D"yiv5086684710WordSection1"><p class=3D"y=
iv5086684710MsoNormal">Listers / Wayne</p><p class=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNorma=
l">I was thinking about the way the cam lobes are lubricated in the origina=
l configuration ( stock parts). Please chime in if this is way off.</p><p c=
lass=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal">It would seem most of the lubrication comes=
from the steady drip that comes out at the rocker and runs down the pushro=
d. First the tappets (lifters) get some oil, then passes by the lifter and =
then on to the cam lobe.</p><p class=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal">The oil dri=
pping from the rocker shaft bushings drips onto the top of the head and dro=
ps through the pushrod holes to the lifter gallery. On some worn out engine=
s this is a flood instead of a drip. Then you have the oil fog that is in t=
he crank case/oil pan area when the engine is running due to the squirt of =
oil coming out of the piston rods big ends. The intent was to oil down the =
piston bores but coats pretty much everything.</p><p class=3D"yiv5086684710=
MsoNormal">The bucket lifters, which by the way was an old hot rod trick fr=
om the early days of Austin Healeys, using lighter weight lifters out of a =
straight eight Oldsmobile (if I remember correctly) and longer pushrods may=
or may not be drilled to allow oil to the cam lobe/lifter face. Some guys =
used pressurized oil to squirt the interface when the bucket was not drille=
d. The bucket lifters sold years ago that did not have a hole in the lifter=
s had failure problems. A hole was added but the problem with the drilled h=
ole in the bucket it could clog and there was little to no lubrication of t=
he cam lobes, thus major wear. </p><p class=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal=
">I=E2=80=99m not suggesting that the can lobe failure was caused by a plug=
ged hole in the lifter since I did not work on this engine. But it is a pos=
sibility.</p><p class=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal">Perry</p><p class=3D"yiv50=
86684710MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal">Sent from =
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rosoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" data-mce-href=3D"https://go.microsoft.c=
om/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986">Mail</a> for Windows 10</p><p class=3D"yiv50866=
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rder: none; padding: 0in;"><b>From: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:waschu2@gmail.com"; data-mce-href=3D"mailto=
:waschu2@gmail.com">Wayne Schultz</a><br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent: </b>Monday=
, April 27, 2020 4:49 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b><a rel=3D"nofollow" s=
hape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; data=
-mce-href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br c=
lear=3D"none"><b>Subject: </b>[Healeys] Oil Additives</p></div><p class=3D"=
yiv5086684710MsoNormal"> </p><div><p class=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal">=
Hello everyone, I recently completed a rebuild of the engine in my Hea=
ley 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dropped my o=
il pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block that lined =
up with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always had good =
oil pressure and a very quiet motor. I pulled the motor and upon tear=
down I found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild pitting.&nb=
sp; I thought about how I used my car and came to conclusion I, rathe=
r than the oil might be the reason for the cam failure.&nbs=
p; I drove my car every couple of weeks in nice weather. This is just enoug=
h time for the oil to leave the cam and lifters to drain into the pan. This=
meant the next time I started the engine the cam and lifters might ha=
ve been metal on metal. My new lifters are short bucket lifters with =
a drain hole to lubricate the cam lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50</p></div=
></div><p class=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"yiv5086684=
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