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To: Wayne Schultz <waschu2@gmail.com>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>, Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Oil Additives
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2020 05:05:32 +0000 (UTC)
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 You can get "Mobil 1 V-Twin 20W-50" for Harley Davidson type motorcycles i=
n a pinch.=C2=A0 It contains the ZDDP required for our cars.=C2=A0 If you w=
ant conventional oil I have used Kendall GT-1 Competition 20W-50 in my Heal=
eys and MGB for years.=C2=A0 All the ZDDP you need plus other additives to =
protect your followers and camshaft at shutdown.=C2=A0 You can get the Kend=
all oil at Pacific Northwest or Amazon or directly from Kendall.=C2=A0 Sear=
ch around the internet for the best price.=C2=A0 You can find it for half t=
he price of the Mobil 1 V-Twin synthetic oil.

British Parts Northwest Kendall GT-1 High Performance 20W-50 Oil

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Mike MacLean


    On Monday, April 27, 2020, 6:53:28 PM PDT, Perry via Healeys <healeys@a=
utox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Listers / Wayne

I was thinking about the way the cam lobes are lubricated in the original c=
onfiguration ( stock parts). Please chime in if this is way off.=20

It would seem most of the lubrication comes from the steady drip that comes=
 out at the rocker and runs down the pushrod. First the tappets (lifters) g=
et some oil, then passes by the lifter and then on to the cam lobe.=20

The oil dripping from the rocker shaft bushings drips onto the top of the h=
ead and drops through the pushrod holes to the lifter gallery. On some worn=
 out engines this is a flood instead of a drip. Then you have the oil fog t=
hat is in the crank case/oil pan area when the engine is running due to the=
 squirt of oil coming out of the piston rods big ends. The intent was to oi=
l down the piston bores but coats pretty much everything.

The bucket lifters, which by the way was an old hot rod trick from the earl=
y days of Austin Healeys, using lighter weight lifters out of a straight ei=
ght Oldsmobile (if I remember correctly) and longer pushrods may or may not=
 be drilled to allow oil to the cam lobe/lifter face. Some guys used pressu=
rized oil to squirt the interface when the bucket was not drilled. The buck=
et lifters sold years ago that did not have a hole in the lifters had failu=
re problems. A hole was added but the problem with the drilled hole in the =
bucket it could clog and there was little to no lubrication of the cam lobe=
s, thus major wear. =C2=A0

I=E2=80=99m not suggesting that the can lobe failure was caused by a plugge=
d hole in the lifter since I did not work on this engine. But it is a possi=
bility.=20

Perry

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From: Wayne Schultz
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 4:49 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Oil Additives

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Hello everyone, I recently completed=C2=A0a rebuild of the engine in my Hea=
ley 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dropped my o=
il pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block that lined =
up with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always had good =
oil pressure and a very quiet motor.=C2=A0 I pulled the motor and upon tear=
down I found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild pitting.=C2=
=A0 I thought about how I used my car and came to conclusion=C2=A0 I, rathe=
r than the oil might=C2=A0be=C2=A0the=C2=A0 reason for the cam failure.=C2=
=A0 I drove my car every couple of weeks in nice weather. This is just enou=
gh time for the oil to leave the cam and lifters to drain into the pan. Thi=
s meant the next time I started the engine the cam and lifters=C2=A0might h=
ave been metal on metal.=C2=A0 My new lifters are short bucket lifters with=
 a drain hole to lubricate=C2=A0the cam lobes. Now using VR-1 20/50

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sed Kendall GT-1 Competition 20W-50 in my Healeys and MGB for years.&nbsp; =
All the ZDDP you need plus other additives to protect your followers and ca=
mshaft at shutdown.&nbsp; You can get the Kendall oil at Pacific Northwest =
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                    On Monday, April 27, 2020, 6:53:28 PM PDT, Perry via He=
aleys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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ss=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal">Listers / Wayne</p><p class=3D"yiv5086684710M=
soNormal">I was thinking about the way the cam lobes are lubricated in the =
original configuration ( stock parts). Please chime in if this is way off. =
</p><p class=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal">It would seem most of the lubricati=
on comes from the steady drip that comes out at the rocker and runs down th=
e pushrod. First the tappets (lifters) get some oil, then passes by the lif=
ter and then on to the cam lobe. </p><p class=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal">Th=
e oil dripping from the rocker shaft bushings drips onto the top of the hea=
d and drops through the pushrod holes to the lifter gallery. On some worn o=
ut engines this is a flood instead of a drip. Then you have the oil fog tha=
t is in the crank case/oil pan area when the engine is running due to the s=
quirt of oil coming out of the piston rods big ends. The intent was to oil =
down the piston bores but coats pretty much everything.</p><p class=3D"yiv5=
086684710MsoNormal">The bucket lifters, which by the way was an old hot rod=
 trick from the early days of Austin Healeys, using lighter weight lifters =
out of a straight eight Oldsmobile (if I remember correctly) and longer pus=
hrods may or may not be drilled to allow oil to the cam lobe/lifter face. S=
ome guys used pressurized oil to squirt the interface when the bucket was n=
ot drilled. The bucket lifters sold years ago that did not have a hole in t=
he lifters had failure problems. A hole was added but the problem with the =
drilled hole in the bucket it could clog and there was little to no lubrica=
tion of the cam lobes, thus major wear. &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv5086684710=
MsoNormal">I=E2=80=99m not suggesting that the can lobe failure was caused =
by a plugged hole in the lifter since I did not work on this engine. But it=
 is a possibility. </p><p class=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal">Perry</p><p clas=
s=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal"=
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ent: </b>Monday, April 27, 2020 4:49 PM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To: </b><a rel=
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class=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"yiv5086684710M=
soNormal">Hello everyone, I recently completed&nbsp;a rebuild of the engine=
 in my Healey 3000. At 48K miles i noticed metal during an oil change. I dr=
opped my oil pan and found even more metal and a silver ring in the block t=
hat lined up with a cam lobe. I had been using Mobil 1 for years and always=
 had good oil pressure and a very quiet motor.&nbsp; I pulled the motor and=
 upon teardown I found one bad cam lobe and several lifters that had mild p=
itting.&nbsp; I thought about how I used my car and came to conclusion&nbsp=
; I, rather than the oil might&nbsp;be&nbsp;the&nbsp; reason for the cam fa=
ilure.&nbsp; I drove my car every couple of weeks in nice weather. This is =
just enough time for the oil to leave the cam and lifters to drain into the=
 pan. This meant the next time I started the engine the cam and lifters&nbs=
p;might have been metal on metal.&nbsp; My new lifters are short bucket lif=
ters with a drain hole to lubricate&nbsp;the cam lobes. Now using VR-1 20/5=
0</p></div></div><p class=3D"yiv5086684710MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p class=3D=
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