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Re: Geez! (was: Going Downhill)

To: "Darren Madams" <darren@madams.com>
Subject: Re: Geez! (was: Going Downhill)
From: "james creasy" <Black94PGT@pacbell.net>
Date: Thu, 7 Mar 2002 14:25:11 -0500
i think it also shows the max peak and sustained lateral, accel and braking
G's.  kinda cool as borden registered 1.47 lateral Gs (and 1 G braking and
acceleration), and i think vic said he was getting 1.4 lateral on kumhos.  i
wonder how it compares to a skid pad G test.

-james c


----- Original Message -----
From: "Darren Madams" <darren@madams.com>
Cc: "J C" <veloimpreza@yahoo.com>; <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 2:13 PM
Subject: Re: Geez! (was: Going Downhill)


> I have one of the early serial number cubes back when it was a "Box" and
> way before it was "Extreme".  I've found it pretty useful, but it's best
> use is comparing to other drivers in the same car.
>
> It does map the general shape of the course, but it can't be used to tell
> how far off the apex you were.  It does have numerous guages that show
> calculated speed in MPH which can be used to see when you were above or
> below other runs... or how fast you were when you broke.  It takes some
> time to do the analysis the day after, but combined with the knowledge
> that Byron has collected over the years (which he's willing to share in
> person and in NAP), and the data I've collected, I feel like I better
> understand where REAL time is gained and lost.  Of course, I still have
> problems executing that plan, but at least I know where I'm losing a
> chunk of time (high speed sweepers).
>
> Theoretically it can be used to judge performance improvements of various
> car modifications as it tracks peak and sustained lateral g's as well as
> a calculated horsepower guage.  If you have access to a 100ft skidpad it
> would definitely be good for alignment and tire testing, but all the
> variables on your typical autocross run generally prevent that (unless
> the change is major between runs of course).
>
> As Josh said, http://www.extremegeez.com/ and Byron Short is always
> willing to answer questions when he's not out on the road working or
> giving seminars.
>
> --Darren
>
> You wrote:
> > It's a device and software to help you analyze your performance during
> > performance driving.  It has micro accelerometers such that it can track
the
> > cars every motion during your run, and you can compare two runs with it
(was
> > my co-driver faster in that corner?  Why?  Oh, I see, he broke earlier
than
> > I did and got on the gas sooner coming out).
> >
> > Developed and sold by longtime autocrosser Byron Short.
> >
> > http://www.extremegeez.com/
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "J C" <veloimpreza@yahoo.com>
> > To: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> > Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 10:07 AM
> > Subject: Re: Going Downhill
> >
> >
> > > --- Darren Madams <darren@madams.com> wrote:
> > > > More importanly, it's hiding in every braking zone
> > > > and every straight
> > > > too... Jesus is a pretty good guy to listen to!!!!!!
> > >
> > > > Oh, and get a Geez cube and a codriver. :)
> > >
> > > Why do I get the feeling like I'm opening up a can of
> > > worms here by asking... "What is a Geez Cube"? Are you
> > > talking about someone aged 30 or over ;-)? <hehe>
> > >
> > > > The biggest place to gain and lose time is the
> > > > slowest corner before the longest straight.  At the
> > > > Atwater kart track that fact is painfully obvious
> > > > (and a delight for those of us that understand that
> > > > secret).
> > > >
> > > > Best book about this stuff is "Speed Secrets" by
> > > > Ross Bentley (it was recommended to me by Ben
> > > > Martinez who is quick enough already)
> > >
> > > Thanks, I'll check it out. I already have Henry Watts'
> > > "Secrets of Solo Racing" which has been quite helpful.
> > >
> > > Joe
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