Yeah, he IS kinda certifiable....
But I see a lot of women driving pickup trucks, and many have kids with
them....soccer moms perhaps?
And I blew a tire on a 35 ft. RV at 75MPH pulling an 18ft. open trailer with
Bud Collins' Neon on the back...wow, wonder why it didn't roll over...
Phil O.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Thomas VandenOever" <tavandy1@airmail.net>
To: "'autox mailing list'" <autox@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 3:48 PM
Subject: RE: Jeep Liberty Rollover
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: owner-autox@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-autox@autox.team.net]On
> > Behalf Of Mark J. Andy
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2001 2:59 PM
> > To: autox mailing list
> > Subject: Re: Jeep Liberty Rollover
> >
> >
> > Howdy,
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Nov 2001, Phillip Osborne wrote:
> > > I had a Jeep Grand Cherokee 4WD V8 that handled pretty darn
> > good too. In my
> > > opinion, you can take any truck or SUV, two or 4WD and
> > subject them to
> > > certain conditions and effect a rollover. I've been in a
> > few that have gone
> > > up on two wheels (under closed loop conditions), and it
> > ain't that difficult
> > > to make them do it. It's funny to me that SUV's catch the
> > flack, while they
> > > are nothing more than a glorified truck with a topper. An
> > SUV rolls and
> > > it's headline news, a truck rolls and it's never mentioned...
> >
> > That's because soccer moms rarely are in the trucks...
>
> I have agree with Andy on this one. I work for a rather blue collar
company.
> There are quite a few "ladies" and "gentlemen" who work for this firm who
> drive Expeditions, Jimmeys, Suburbans, and Excursions who believe that if
> these vehicles weren't perfectly safe they wouldn't be available for sale.
> They got the scare of their lives when one of these geniuses rolled their
> SUV on an off ramp recently. Only time this Darwinian noticed the warning
on
> their sunvisor was when she climbed out over it! This person and several
of
> her coworkers give me grief constantly for racing in parking lots
> (obligatory autocross content).
>
> Ford succesfully played Firestone for the pansy in the past media farce.
> Great marketing runs circles around common sense. At least pickups are
> marketed as tough vehicles for working people. Not stupid urban
> vanity-mobiles to replace your car.
>
> I've blown a front tire on a Mercedes 230.6 at well over 120MPH (autobahn
81
> heading for Sindelfingen{Home of Diamler/Benz} from Manheim). It wasn't
> easy, but I didn't hit anything. Blown a rear tire in a GTI doing about
the
> same(A5 between Heidelburg and Frankfurt). Got to the shoulder in one
almost
> smooth move. Driven a 935 from Cuxhavan to Munich in under 5 1/2 hours
> (Yahoo says 533 miles and yes it was midnight when I started). Certifiable
> Nut (ask Phil Osborne) who wouldn't drive any SUV over 80 in any case.
>
> Nomex on order
> Tom VandenOever
> ex #7 ES Neon "Greon"
> Soon to be IT Neon "Bluon"
>
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