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I'm already in California.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 9:26=E2=80=AFAM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Because one day the politicians will come for our cars and force us to bu=
y
> something with a big battery in it?
>
> On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 at 15:26, Monty Love via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> How about we keep our politics to ourselves on this list and try to enjo=
y
>> the cars.
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 10:02=E2=80=AFAM David Woerpel via Spridgets <
>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Amen to all both of you wrote. Especially Larry's closing plea.
>>> I'm just beginning my 8th decade(79) and a student of history. Our
>>> close friends in Australia have the same fears and opinions as UK and
>>> Europe. Different perspectives help us see the total picture.
>>> 1st day of Spring!! Approaching 60*F here in Cheeseland so may drop th=
e
>>> tank on the Bugeye to replace the sending unit seal. Hardest part is
>>> emptying the boot.
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> DaveW
>>>
>>> '59:{)
>>> '59 MGA 1500
>>> 'Pay It Forward"
>>>
>>> On Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 7:38=E2=80=AFAM Larry Macy via Spridgets <
>>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Daniel,
>>>>
>>>> Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points=
,
>>>> but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is
>>>> insulting and bitching at NATO countries.
>>>>
>>>> I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst
>>>> relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in th=
ose
>>>> decades. Treating Russia as a =E2=80=9Cfriend=E2=80=9D over NATO, Iran=
and Ukraine is the
>>>> bottom of the barrel in my opinion.
>>>>
>>>> This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have
>>>> one.
>>>>
>>>> Spridgeteers, Please don=E2=80=99t t make this a mess. It is simply th=
e opinion
>>>> of an Englishman and an American.
>>>>
>>>> Larry
>>>>
>>>> On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33=E2=80=AFAM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
>>>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi List,
>>>>
>>>> I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply
>>>> aren't being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose
>>>> reporters seem to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
>>>>
>>>> The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and
>>>> continues to have from Russia and China, the latter especially. I bel=
ieve
>>>> that Iran is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abett=
ed)
>>>> over decades by Russia and China. I have heard that Chinese technicia=
ns
>>>> aiding Iran firing missiles have been killed. So if America decides t=
o
>>>> attack Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense. Iran with nuclear weapo=
ns
>>>> would be a disaster for the world.
>>>>
>>>> NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.
>>>> NATO is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression
>>>> needs some backup. Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any ot=
her
>>>> country and arguably it has had the most back. Europe provided the bu=
ffer
>>>> for the USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA deci=
ded
>>>> was worth paying. Well times change and the USSR not longer exists bu=
t
>>>> former members are a threat. The flipside to the coin that isn't disc=
ussed
>>>> is not whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple=
do)
>>>> but could America spend less?
>>>>
>>>> America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats
>>>> and attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators
>>>> aren't saying so. America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr
>>>> Putin and Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has g=
iven
>>>> to Iran. Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little=
and
>>>> not state what is close to being obvious.
>>>>
>>>> What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and
>>>> European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not
>>>> answering a call to aid from America. It is India, China and other ea=
stern
>>>> countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and Euro=
pean
>>>> countries. It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO. W=
ell
>>>> Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of it=
s
>>>> territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistanc=
e of
>>>> the USA. What about the European countries in NATO? Well they are st=
ill
>>>> very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still
>>>> Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they oug=
ht to
>>>> be doing.
>>>>
>>>> It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely
>>>> accuse them. And while you might publicly state they aren't helping a=
nd
>>>> are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different. However, =
spend
>>>> enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real r=
isk
>>>> you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less=
or
>>>> nothing for you in the future. Google RAF Croughton and see not only =
how
>>>> important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal roa=
d
>>>> accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Daniel S
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>>>>
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>>>> lmacy@mac.com
>>>>
>>>>
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=E2=80=9D he
>>>> said. =E2=80=9CTry to make sense of what you see and about what makes =
the
>>>> universe exist. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there=
is
>>>> always something you can do, and succeed at. It matters that you don=
=E2=80=99t just
>>>> give up.=E2=80=9D
>>>> ~Stephen Hawking
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<div dir=3D"ltr">I'm already in California.</div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri=
, Mar 20, 2026 at 9:26=E2=80=AFAM Weslake1330 via Spridgets <<a href=3D"=
mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net";>spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">B=
ecause one day the politicians will come for our cars and force us to buy s=
omething with a big battery in it?</div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, 20 Mar 2026 at 15:26, Monty Love =
via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_bl=
ank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"=
gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:verdana,sans-serif;font-size:large">How about we keep =
our politics to ourselves on this list and try to enjoy the cars.</div></di=
v><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On F=
ri, Mar 20, 2026 at 10:02=E2=80=AFAM David Woerpel via Spridgets <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.tea=
m.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"ma=
rgin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:=
1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Amen to all both of you wrote. Especially Larry'=
s closing plea.<div dir=3D"auto">I'm just beginning my 8th decade(79) a=
nd a student of history.=C2=A0 Our close friends in Australia have the same=
fears and opinions as UK and Europe.=C2=A0 Different perspectives help us =
see the total picture.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">1st day of Spring!!=C2=
=A0 Approaching 60*F here in Cheeseland so may drop the tank on the Bugeye =
to replace the sending unit seal. Hardest part is emptying the boot.</div><=
div dir=3D"auto">Regards,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto=
">DaveW</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">'59:{)</div>=
<div dir=3D"auto">'59 MGA 1500</div><div dir=3D"auto">'Pay It Forwa=
rd"</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 7:38=E2=80=AFAM Larry Macy via Spridg=
ets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">sprid=
gets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quot=
e" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204)=
;padding-left:1ex"><div>Daniel,<div><br></div><div>Well stated and thought =
from the British POV. I agree with your points, but would like to insert on=
e clarification. It is not America that is insulting and bitching at NATO c=
ountries.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>I have been around for nearly 7 de=
cades and this is the absolute worst relationship between our NATO allies a=
nd the US I have ever seen in those decades. Treating Russia as a =E2=80=9C=
friend=E2=80=9D over NATO, Iran and Ukraine is the bottom of the barrel in =
my opinion.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>This is my opinion, and so far, =
in the US, I am still allowed to have one.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>S=
pridgeteers, Please don=E2=80=99t t make this a mess. It is simply the opin=
ion of an Englishman and an American. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Larry=
<br id=3D"m_4928107252240756881m_-5303689062396775595m_-7337965519567597478=
m_4724275360255771751lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><blockquote ty=
pe=3D"cite"><div>On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33=E2=80=AFAM, Weslake1330 via Sprid=
gets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" tar=
get=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Hi List,<div><br></div><div>I wanted to post some thoughts on=C2=
=A0Iran, NATO and Europe that simply aren't being reported on national =
news, as far as I can tell, whose reporters seem to have no idea of analysi=
s or wider impacts.</div><div><br></div><div>The news isn't saying much=
about how much help Iran has had and continues to have from Russia and Chi=
na, the latter especially.=C2=A0 I believe that Iran is an evil regime supp=
orted (English phrase: aided and abetted) over decades by Russia and China.=
=C2=A0 I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding Iran firing missiles ha=
ve been killed.=C2=A0 So if America decides to attack Iran that's ok by=
me in a broad sense.=C2=A0 Iran with nuclear weapons would be a disaster f=
or the world.</div><div><br></div><div>NATO is about defence and its member=
ship agreement makes that clear.=C2=A0 NATO is not a force multiplier to ca=
ll upon when a member's aggression needs some backup.=C2=A0 Yes, the US=
A puts more money into NATO than any other country and arguably it has had =
the most back.=C2=A0 Europe provided the buffer for the USA against the USS=
R and I guess that was a price the USA decided was worth paying.=C2=A0 Well=
times change and the USSR not longer exists but former members are a threa=
t.=C2=A0 The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed is not whether a=
ll the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do) but could Americ=
a spend less?</div><div><br></div><div>America has stated that China rather=
that Russia are the real threats and attacking Iran weakens China consider=
ably though news commentators aren't saying so.=C2=A0 America seems to =
continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and Russia and seem to ignore the =
large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.=C2=A0 Well I guess it might be =
in America's interest to say little and not state what is close to bein=
g obvious.</div><div><br></div><div>What makes no sense and is baseless cri=
ticism is to insult NATO and European countries (who get very little oil an=
d gas from Iran) for not answering a call to aid from America.=C2=A0 It is =
India, China and other eastern countries who are not going their oil from t=
he Gulf, not NATO and European countries.=C2=A0 It's also worth conside=
ring what countries are in NATO.=C2=A0 Well Canada is in NATO and so is Den=
mark (who count Greenland as part of its territory) and they have good grou=
nds for not rushing to the assistance of the USA.=C2=A0 What about the Euro=
pean countries in NATO?=C2=A0 Well they are still very focused on supportin=
g Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still Russian aggression and threat=
- something that America thinks they ought to be doing.</div><div><br></di=
v><div>It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely=
accuse them.=C2=A0 And while you might publicly state they aren't help=
ing and are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.=C2=A0 H=
owever, spend enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is=
a real risk you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to d=
o a lot less or nothing for you in the future.=C2=A0 Google RAF Croughton a=
nd see not only how important that is to America but the controversy caused=
by a fatal road accident that made everything connected to that site unpop=
ular.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>Daniel S</d=
iv></div>
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