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How about we keep our politics to ourselves on this list and try to enjoy
the cars.
On Fri, Mar 20, 2026 at 10:02=E2=80=AFAM David Woerpel via Spridgets <
spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Amen to all both of you wrote. Especially Larry's closing plea.
> I'm just beginning my 8th decade(79) and a student of history. Our close
> friends in Australia have the same fears and opinions as UK and Europe.
> Different perspectives help us see the total picture.
> 1st day of Spring!! Approaching 60*F here in Cheeseland so may drop the
> tank on the Bugeye to replace the sending unit seal. Hardest part is
> emptying the boot.
> Regards,
>
> DaveW
>
> '59:{)
> '59 MGA 1500
> 'Pay It Forward"
>
> On Fri, Mar 20, 2026, 7:38=E2=80=AFAM Larry Macy via Spridgets <
> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Daniel,
>>
>> Well stated and thought from the British POV. I agree with your points,
>> but would like to insert one clarification. It is not America that is
>> insulting and bitching at NATO countries.
>>
>> I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the absolute worst
>> relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever seen in thos=
e
>> decades. Treating Russia as a =E2=80=9Cfriend=E2=80=9D over NATO, Iran a=
nd Ukraine is the
>> bottom of the barrel in my opinion.
>>
>> This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still allowed to have
>> one.
>>
>> Spridgeteers, Please don=E2=80=99t t make this a mess. It is simply the =
opinion
>> of an Englishman and an American.
>>
>> Larry
>>
>> On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33=E2=80=AFAM, Weslake1330 via Spridgets <
>> spridgets@autox.team.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hi List,
>>
>> I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply
>> aren't being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose
>> reporters seem to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.
>>
>> The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and continue=
s
>> to have from Russia and China, the latter especially. I believe that Ir=
an
>> is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over
>> decades by Russia and China. I have heard that Chinese technicians aidi=
ng
>> Iran firing missiles have been killed. So if America decides to attack
>> Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense. Iran with nuclear weapons would =
be
>> a disaster for the world.
>>
>> NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.
>> NATO is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression
>> needs some backup. Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any othe=
r
>> country and arguably it has had the most back. Europe provided the buff=
er
>> for the USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decide=
d
>> was worth paying. Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but
>> former members are a threat. The flipside to the coin that isn't discus=
sed
>> is not whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple d=
o)
>> but could America spend less?
>>
>> America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats an=
d
>> attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators aren'=
t
>> saying so. America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin an=
d
>> Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran=
.
>> Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and not sta=
te
>> what is close to being obvious.
>>
>> What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and
>> European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not
>> answering a call to aid from America. It is India, China and other east=
ern
>> countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and Europe=
an
>> countries. It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO. Wel=
l
>> Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its
>> territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance =
of
>> the USA. What about the European countries in NATO? Well they are stil=
l
>> very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still
>> Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought=
to
>> be doing.
>>
>> It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely
>> accuse them. And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and
>> are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite different. However, sp=
end
>> enough time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real ris=
k
>> you'll discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less o=
r
>> nothing for you in the future. Google RAF Croughton and see not only ho=
w
>> important that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road
>> accident that made everything connected to that site unpopular.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Daniel S
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>>
>> =E2=80=94
>>
>> Larry B. Macy, Ph.D.
>> lmacy@mac.com
>>
>>
>> =E2=80=9CRemember to look up at the stars and not down at your feet,=E2=
=80=9D he
>> said. =E2=80=9CTry to make sense of what you see and about what makes th=
e
>> universe exist. Be curious. And however difficult life may seem, there i=
s
>> always something you can do, and succeed at. It matters that you don=E2=
=80=99t just
>> give up.=E2=80=9D
>> ~Stephen Hawking
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:verdana,=
sans-serif;font-size:large">How about we keep our politics to ourselves on =
this list and try to enjoy the cars.</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri, Mar=
20, 2026 at 10:02=E2=80=AFAM David Woerpel via Spridgets <<a href=3D"ma=
ilto:spridgets@autox.team.net">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><=
/div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;bo=
rder-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Am=
en to all both of you wrote. Especially Larry's closing plea.<div dir=
=3D"auto">I'm just beginning my 8th decade(79) and a student of history=
.=C2=A0 Our close friends in Australia have the same fears and opinions as =
UK and Europe.=C2=A0 Different perspectives help us see the total picture.=
=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">1st day of Spring!!=C2=A0 Approaching 60*F he=
re in Cheeseland so may drop the tank on the Bugeye to replace the sending =
unit seal. Hardest part is emptying the boot.</div><div dir=3D"auto">Regard=
s,</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">DaveW</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">'59:{)</div><div dir=3D"auto">=
9;59 MGA 1500</div><div dir=3D"auto">'Pay It Forward"</div></div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Fri,=
Mar 20, 2026, 7:38=E2=80=AFAM Larry Macy via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mail=
to:spridgets@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>=
> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
>Daniel,<div><br></div><div>Well stated and thought from the British POV. I=
agree with your points, but would like to insert one clarification. It is =
not America that is insulting and bitching at NATO countries.=C2=A0</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>I have been around for nearly 7 decades and this is the a=
bsolute worst relationship between our NATO allies and the US I have ever s=
een in those decades. Treating Russia as a =E2=80=9Cfriend=E2=80=9D over NA=
TO, Iran and Ukraine is the bottom of the barrel in my opinion.=C2=A0</div>=
<div><br></div><div>This is my opinion, and so far, in the US, I am still a=
llowed to have one.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Spridgeteers, Please don=
=E2=80=99t t make this a mess. It is simply the opinion of an Englishman an=
d an American. =C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>Larry<br id=3D"m_-7337965519=
567597478m_4724275360255771751lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div><br><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Mar 20, 2026, at 6:33=E2=80=AFAM, Weslake1330 =
via Spridgets <<a href=3D"mailto:spridgets@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">spridgets@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:</div><br><d=
iv><div dir=3D"ltr">Hi List,<div><br></div><div>I wanted to post some thoug=
hts on=C2=A0Iran, NATO and Europe that simply aren't being reported on =
national news, as far as I can tell, whose reporters seem to have no idea o=
f analysis or wider impacts.</div><div><br></div><div>The news isn't sa=
ying much about how much help Iran has had and continues to have from Russi=
a and China, the latter especially.=C2=A0 I believe that Iran is an evil re=
gime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over decades by Russia a=
nd China.=C2=A0 I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding Iran firing mi=
ssiles have been killed.=C2=A0 So if America decides to attack Iran that=
9;s ok by me in a broad sense.=C2=A0 Iran with nuclear weapons would be a d=
isaster for the world.</div><div><br></div><div>NATO is about defence and i=
ts membership agreement makes that clear.=C2=A0 NATO is not a force multipl=
ier to call upon when a member's aggression needs some backup.=C2=A0 Ye=
s, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other country and arguably it=
has had the most back.=C2=A0 Europe provided the buffer for the USA agains=
t the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided was worth paying.=
=C2=A0 Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but former members =
are a threat.=C2=A0 The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed is no=
t whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do) but c=
ould America spend less?</div><div><br></div><div>America has stated that C=
hina rather that Russia are the real threats and attacking Iran weakens Chi=
na considerably though news commentators aren't saying so.=C2=A0 Americ=
a seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and Russia and seem to =
ignore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.=C2=A0 Well I guess i=
t might be in America's interest to say little and not state what is cl=
ose to being obvious.</div><div><br></div><div>What makes no sense and is b=
aseless criticism is to insult NATO and European countries (who get very li=
ttle oil and gas from Iran) for not answering a call to aid from America.=
=C2=A0 It is India, China and other eastern countries who are not going the=
ir oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European countries.=C2=A0 It's also =
worth considering what countries are in NATO.=C2=A0 Well Canada is in NATO =
and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its territory) and they h=
ave good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of the USA.=C2=A0 What a=
bout the European countries in NATO?=C2=A0 Well they are still very focused=
on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still Russian aggressi=
on and threat - something that America thinks they ought to be doing.</div>=
<div><br></div><div>It is never good sense to insult your friends and allie=
s, or falsely accuse them.=C2=A0 And while you might publicly state they ar=
en't helping and are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite diffe=
rent.=C2=A0 However, spend enough time and energy publicly criticising them=
and there is a real risk you'll discover how much they DID do when the=
y decide to do a lot less or nothing for you in the future.=C2=A0 Google RA=
F Croughton and see not only how important that is to America but the contr=
oversy caused by a fatal road accident that made everything connected to th=
at site unpopular.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><di=
v>Daniel S</div></div>
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macy@mac.com</a><br><br><br>=E2=80=9CRemember to look up at the stars=C2=A0=
and not down at your feet,=E2=80=9D he said.=C2=A0=E2=80=9CTry to make sens=
e of what you see=C2=A0and about what makes the universe=C2=A0exist. Be cur=
ious. And however=C2=A0difficult life may seem, there is always=C2=A0someth=
ing you can do, and succeed=C2=A0at. It matters that you don=E2=80=99t just=
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