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Hi List,

I wanted to post some thoughts on Iran, NATO and Europe that simply aren't
being reported on national news, as far as I can tell, whose reporters seem
to have no idea of analysis or wider impacts.

The news isn't saying much about how much help Iran has had and continues
to have from Russia and China, the latter especially.  I believe that Iran
is an evil regime supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over
decades by Russia and China.  I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding
Iran firing missiles have been killed.  So if America decides to attack
Iran that's ok by me in a broad sense.  Iran with nuclear weapons would be
a disaster for the world.

NATO is about defence and its membership agreement makes that clear.  NATO
is not a force multiplier to call upon when a member's aggression needs
some backup.  Yes, the USA puts more money into NATO than any other country
and arguably it has had the most back.  Europe provided the buffer for the
USA against the USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided was worth
paying.  Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but former
members are a threat.  The flipside to the coin that isn't discussed is not
whether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do) but
could America spend less?

America has stated that China rather that Russia are the real threats and
attacking Iran weakens China considerably though news commentators aren't
saying so.  America seems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and
Russia and seem to ignore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.
Well I guess it might be in America's interest to say little and not state
what is close to being obvious.

What makes no sense and is baseless criticism is to insult NATO and
European countries (who get very little oil and gas from Iran) for not
answering a call to aid from America.  It is India, China and other eastern
countries who are not going their oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European
countries.  It's also worth considering what countries are in NATO.  Well
Canada is in NATO and so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its
territory) and they have good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of
the USA.  What about the European countries in NATO?  Well they are still
very focused on supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still
Russian aggression and threat - something that America thinks they ought to
be doing.

It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, or falsely accuse
them.  And while you might publicly state they aren't helping and are free
loaders, the truth and reality is quite different.  However, spend enough
time and energy publicly criticising them and there is a real risk you'll
discover how much they DID do when they decide to do a lot less or nothing
for you in the future.  Google RAF Croughton and see not only how important
that is to America but the controversy caused by a fatal road accident that
made everything connected to that site unpopular.

Regards

Daniel S

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi List,<div><br></div><div>I wanted to post some thoughts=
 on=C2=A0Iran, NATO and Europe that simply aren&#39;t being reported on nat=
ional news, as far as I can tell, whose reporters seem to have no idea of a=
nalysis or wider impacts.</div><div><br></div><div>The news isn&#39;t sayin=
g much about how much help Iran has had and continues to have from Russia a=
nd China, the latter especially.=C2=A0 I believe that Iran is an evil regim=
e supported (English phrase: aided and abetted) over decades by Russia and =
China.=C2=A0 I have heard that Chinese technicians aiding Iran firing missi=
les have been killed.=C2=A0 So if America decides to attack Iran that&#39;s=
 ok by me in a broad sense.=C2=A0 Iran with nuclear weapons would be a disa=
ster for the world.</div><div><br></div><div>NATO is about defence and its =
membership agreement makes that clear.=C2=A0 NATO is not a force multiplier=
 to call upon when a member&#39;s aggression needs some backup.=C2=A0 Yes, =
the USA puts more money into NATO than any other country and arguably it ha=
s had the most back.=C2=A0 Europe provided the buffer for the USA against t=
he USSR and I guess that was a price the USA decided was worth paying.=C2=
=A0 Well times change and the USSR not longer exists but former members are=
 a threat.=C2=A0 The flipside to the coin that isn&#39;t discussed is not w=
hether all the NATO countries need to spend more (and a couple do) but coul=
d America spend less?</div><div><br></div><div>America has stated that Chin=
a rather that Russia are the real threats and attacking Iran weakens China =
considerably though news commentators aren&#39;t saying so.=C2=A0 America s=
eems to continue to be well disposed to Mr Putin and Russia and seem to ign=
ore the large part of aid Russia has given to Iran.=C2=A0 Well I guess it m=
ight be in America&#39;s interest to say little and not state what is close=
 to being obvious.</div><div><br></div><div>What makes no sense and is base=
less criticism is to insult NATO and European countries (who get very littl=
e oil and gas from Iran) for not answering a call to aid from America.=C2=
=A0 It is India, China and other eastern countries who are not going their =
oil from the Gulf, not NATO and European countries.=C2=A0 It&#39;s also wor=
th considering what countries are in NATO.=C2=A0 Well Canada is in NATO and=
 so is Denmark (who count Greenland as part of its territory) and they have=
 good grounds for not rushing to the assistance of the USA.=C2=A0 What abou=
t the European countries in NATO?=C2=A0 Well they are still very focused on=
 supporting Ukraine and the Arctic where there is still Russian aggression =
and threat - something that America thinks they ought to be doing.</div><di=
v><br></div><div>It is never good sense to insult your friends and allies, =
or falsely accuse them.=C2=A0 And while you might publicly state they aren&=
#39;t helping and are free loaders, the truth and reality is quite differen=
t.=C2=A0 However, spend enough time and energy publicly criticising them an=
d there is a real risk you&#39;ll discover how much they DID do when they d=
ecide to do a lot less or nothing for you in the future.=C2=A0 Google RAF C=
roughton and see not only how important that is to America but the controve=
rsy caused by a fatal road accident that made everything connected to that =
site unpopular.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards</div><div><br></div><div>D=
aniel S</div></div>

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