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re: Oil Cooler volume

To: Greg Tobin <greg.tobin@mci.com>, <triumphs@Autox.Team.Net>
Subject: re: Oil Cooler volume
From: "Shawn Loseke" <SLoseke@vines.ColoState.EDU>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 99 15:08:10 -0700
Cc: <greg.tobin@mci.com>
 The Oil cooler probably won't help with the overheating. It will help your 
oil pressure by keeping your oil at a more suitable temperature. The best 
way to assure this is by using an inline thermostat with your cooler. This 
will allow the oil to reach it's operating temp as quickly as the stock set 
up. Then when your oil starts getting too hot. The thermostat opens and 
allows the cooled oil to circulate. Just like your engine coolant system. 

        When I fitted a 13 row oil cooler to my TR6. I filled the sump as 
standard. Threw a quart in the car and went for a drive. When the 
thermostat opened, you can sometimes hear the thermostat open, I pulled 
over and topped off the oil level. I don't have a problem of too much oil 
draining back into the pan, the thermostat holds the oil in the cooler and 
the lines. 
        The change to the spin on filter was nice also.

Shawn Loseke
1972 TR6
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From: "Greg Tobin" <greg.tobin@mci.com>, on 1/7/99 2:09 PM:

     This spring, I plan on installing an oil cooler to my '72 Mark IV to
help cool it down from the 80 mile round trip to work at 5000rpm at 
7000foot
elevation.  The 1 gallon capacity radiator just doesn't cut it, even with a
supplemental fan and proper shrouding.

     When you install an oil cooler what is the consensus for adding any
more oil to the crankcase to compensate for the extra volume now added by
the cooler?

    The engine is meant to have a certain amount, ~4 quarts, to keep
everything happy and cool, yet if you add the cooler, you effectively drain
off almost a quart that is at anytime going through the cooler and hoses,
and was previously coursing through the motor.   Is it recommended to add 
an
extra 1/2 quart (or more, depending on the cooler) to keep the oil at the
proper quantity in the motor?

   I'm leaning towards the side that says it won't be a problem:  First,
most of the 'sandwich' plates that go between the filter and the block have
some sort of anit-run-back valve, preventing the crankcase from getting too
full, casuing too much splash back on the reciprocating assembly (and 
broken
pistons).  second, the cooler will most likely be at almost the same height
as the oil pan, and will hold the oil in it anyways, casuing no harm.

   Any thoughts on this?

  Of course, the flip side to this is that once I install the cooler, I
won't be able to tell that my dwell is off by 2 degrees due to it running
too hot...

Greg Tobin
72 Mark IV Daily Driver, 40K original miles.
79 1500      Garage Potato, soon to be a Spit-6
70 GT6+     2.65 Cars in boxes, enough spares to make a Spit-6




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