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Hi Kees.=20
It was a Jeep built in North America, purchased on Canada=E2=80=99s left coa=
st.=20
Therapy is going well.=20
BobE
> On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:59 AM, Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl> wrot=
e:
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> =EF=BB=BF
> Quite possible the car was made in Italy by Fiat? It least that is where (=
som of) the Jeeps in Europe are coming from I believe
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> Kees Oudesluijs
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> Op 24-4-2020 om 19:18 schreef Bob England:
>> Ira =E2=80=A6 USofA is not immune to the creeping metric menace =E2=80=A6=
I had a 1995 Jeep Cherokee bought new =E2=80=A6 went to change the water pu=
mp =E2=80=A6. 9 bolts =E2=80=A6 5 metric and 4 imperial =E2=80=A6 worst yet=
, had to change one of the dash light bulbs =E2=80=A6 took off the dash cove=
r =E2=80=A6 =E2=80=9CLUCAS=E2=80=9D =E2=80=A6. I=E2=80=99m still in therapy =E2=
=80=A6 BobE
>> =20
>> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of i erbs=
>> Sent: April 24, 2020 10:05 AM
>> To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
>> Cc: Healeys
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>> =20
>> Yup,
>> The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a sto=
rm over the cost to convert, so it never officially happened.=20
>>=20
>> Ira Erbs
>> Portland,OR
>> 59 BN4
>> 67MGB
>> 65 AH Sprite
>> phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos
>> =20
>> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com> wrote:
>> =E2=80=9CFlirted=E2=80=9D? To tell the truth, I=E2=80=99d never given it m=
uch thought but had =E2=80=9Cassumed=E2=80=9D that the US had resisted metri=
fication. Don=E2=80=99t I recall that all oil-producing kit is Imperial beca=
use of US domination in that area? And planes=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6?
>> I do know that, when Ted =E2=80=9CThe Grocer=E2=80=9D Heath dragged the U=
K into the Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were some hic=
cups along the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a pint of milk whi=
lst milk bottles still existed.
>> EU: =E2=80=9CYou must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obey=E2=80=
=9D.
>> UK: =E2=80=9CWon=E2=80=99t. Can=E2=80=99t. Shan=E2=80=99t=E2=80=9D.
>> Etcetc Finally:
>> EU: =E2=80=9CYou will obey=E2=80=9D.
>> UK: =E2=80=9COK. We will keep pint glasses (=46rom which we will drink pr=
oper beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as =E2=
=80=9Cpints=E2=80=9D whilst acknowledging that they contain
>> 568.261ml litres each.
>> EU: =E2=80=9CZut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheese=E2=80=9D.
>> Aren=E2=80=99t we all allowed the occasional rant?
>> Simon
>> =20
>> =20
>> From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>=20
>> Sent: 24 April 2020 02:55
>> To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>
>> Cc: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com; Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn=
@tpg.com.au>; Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>> =20
>> When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to canada and mex=
ico they made standard threaded bolts with metric heads so factories there c=
ould use metric tools
>>=20
>> Ira Erbs
>> Portland,OR
>> 59 BN4
>> 67MGB
>> 65 AH Sprite
>> phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos
>> =20
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com> wrote:=
>> I think you have it backwards. The original GM design would have used the=
UNC thread pattern with a 9/16=E2=80=9D bolt head. The design predated metr=
ification in the US by a few decades. When Rover went metric, sometime in th=
e 80s probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern while changing t=
o a metric standard bolt head. It would probably have been more costly to re=
tool the engine castings to switch to a metric thread pattern.
>> =20
>> Bill Lawrence=20
>> BN1 #554
>> From: i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM
>> To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>
>> Cc: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>=
; Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>; Healeys <healeys@autox.tea=
m.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>> =20
>> Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save money on not conver=
ting thread and pitch to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact situation. B=
ut also standards bolts heads too in some areas.=20
>>=20
>> Ira Erbs
>> Portland,OR
>> 59 BN4
>> 67MGB
>> 65 AH Sprite
>> phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos
>> =20
>> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com> wrote=
:
>> In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was surprised to discover th=
at while all of the fasteners used metric wrench sizes many in the short blo=
ck used the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm head. I assu=
me that Rover simply continued the UNC pattern of the original GM castings a=
nd changed the head size to simplify tool inventory.
>> =20
>> Bill Lawrence
>> BN1 #554
>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of simon.lachlan=
@alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM
>> To: 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au>
>> Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>> =20
>> I have a vague memory of what we called =E2=80=9CTransitional Rovers=E2=80=
=9D ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All =C2=BE tonner long wheel-base. All U=
K based. They may have been peculiar to the army.
>>=20
>> Glad I wasn=E2=80=99t in REME=E2=80=A6..they had to maintain them.
>>=20
>> Simon
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Patrick & Car=
oline Quinn
>> Sent: 23 April 2020 00:23
>> To: 'David Nock' <healeydoc@gmail.com>; 'Michael MacLean' <rrengineer.mik=
e@att.net>
>> Cc: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> G=E2=80=99day
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I turned 21 and one of t=
he birthday gifts I received was a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still h=
ave them.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey Saloon. AF for the 100=
BN3 and metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and around the house. There are many=
variations of each for specific purposes.
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Hoo Roo
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Patrick Quinn
>>=20
>> Blue Mountains, Australia
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of David N=
ock
>> Sent: Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM
>> To: Michael MacLean
>> Cc: Healeys
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not Whitworth. Whitworth is a=
coarse thread.=20
>>=20
>> However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are one size apart fro=
m each other.=20
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen bracket is 5/16 bs=
f. Also look close there are some of the studs that go thru into the cooling=
system.=20
>>=20
>> David Nock
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>=20
>> =20
>>=20
>> On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net> w=
rote:
>>=20
>> =EF=BB=BF
>>=20
>> So, I am getting ready to install the head on my 100 short block. Made s=
ure all the intake valves have the new seals I bought from British Car Speci=
alists plus the new set of springs I already had for the valves. The two ma=
ting surfaces were cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush. I have t=
he correct head gasket (copper faced). Tonight was the night to torque the=
head down to the block. My surprise, for some stupid reason I only ordered=
8 new head nuts. I managed to order the correct amount of washer for the h=
ead. No idea what my pea brain was thinking. Also found out the head nuts a=
re Whitworth (3/8") size. I have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averte=
d there. I seem to remember someone talking about the water jacket blanking=
plate earlier this week. That made me look at the front of my block. Thre=
e studs and an empty hole. No cover. I managed to find two blanking covers=
in my stash of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo, but no nuts or=
lock washers. Can someone tell me if these little nuts that I do not have a=
re Whitworth nuts. If so, what size? I have a generator bracket, but there=
are no threaded studs for the block or nuts to mount it with. Once again, W=
hitworth? The closer I get to putting this together the more stuff I find o=
ut I don't have.
>>=20
>> Mike MacLean
>>=20
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">Hi Kees. <div><br></div><div>It was a J=
eep built in North America, purchased on Canada=E2=80=99s left coast. <=
div><br></div><div>Therapy is going well. <br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">BobE=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Apr 24, 2020, at 11:=
59 AM, Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl> wrote:<br><br></blockqu=
ote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
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<p>Quite possible the car was made in Italy by Fiat? It least that
is where (som of) the Jeeps in Europe are coming from I believe<br>
</p>
<p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
<p><br>
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<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">Op 24-4-2020 om 19:18 schreef Bob
England:<br>
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quot;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Ira
=E2=80=A6 USofA is not immune to the creeping metric menace =E2=80=
=A6 I had
a 1995 Jeep Cherokee bought new =E2=80=A6 went to change the wat=
er
pump =E2=80=A6. 9 bolts =E2=80=A6 5 metric and 4 imperial =E2=
=80=A6 worst yet, had
to change one of the dash light bulbs =E2=80=A6 took off the das=
h
cover =E2=80=A6 =E2=80=9CLUCAS=E2=80=9D =E2=80=A6. I=E2=80=99m s=
till in therapy =E2=80=A6 BobE <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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quot;Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></=
b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-=
serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys
[<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bou=
nces@autox.team.net">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf=
Of </b>i
erbs<br>
<b>Sent:</b> April 24, 2020 10:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href=3D"mailt=
o:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><b=
r>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant<o:p></o:p></span></=
p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yup,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">The US was=
going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers raised a
storm over the cost to convert, so it never
officially happened. <o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Ira Erbs<br>
Portland,OR<br>
59 BN4<br>
67MGB<br>
65 AH Sprite<br>
phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM <<a href=
=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; moz-do-not-send=3D"true">simon=
.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=E2=80=9CFlirted=E2=80=9D? To t=
ell the truth, I=E2=80=99d never
given it much thought but had =E2=80=9Cassumed=E2=80=9D t=
hat the US
had resisted metrification. Don=E2=80=99t I recall that a=
ll
oil-producing kit is Imperial because of US
domination in that area? And planes=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6?<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I do know that, when Ted =E2=80=
=9CThe Grocer=E2=80=9D
Heath dragged the UK into the Common Market, we were
supposed to go Metric. There were some hiccups along
the way. A pint of beer remains a pint. As did a
pint of milk whilst milk bottles still existed. <o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">EU: =E2=80=9CYou must cease dri=
nking pints
forthwith. You will obey=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">UK: =E2=80=9CWon=E2=80=99t. Can=
=E2=80=99t. Shan=E2=80=99t=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Etcetc Finally:<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">EU: =E2=80=9CYou will obey=E2=80=
=9D.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">UK: =E2=80=9COK. We will keep p=
int glasses
(=46rom which we will drink proper beer unlike your
pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to those glasses as
=E2=80=9Cpints=E2=80=9D whilst acknowledging that they c=
ontain<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">568.261ml litres each.<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">EU: =E2=80=9CZut, alors. We sur=
render. Have
some cheese=E2=80=9D.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Aren=E2=80=99t we all allowed t=
he occasional
rant?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US">
i erbs <<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; targ=
et=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 24 April 2020 02:55<br>
<b>To:</b> WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <<a href=3D"mailto:yn=
otink@msn.com" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">ynotink@msn.com</a=
>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.=
plus.com" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">simon.lachlan@alexareve=
l.plus.com</a>;
Patrick & Caroline Quinn <<a href=3D"mailto:p_c=
quinn@tpg.com.au" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">p_cquinn@tpg.co=
m.au</a>>;
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>=
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant</span><span=
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;ma=
rgin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">When the US flirted with metrifying=
and production when to canada and mexico they made
standard threaded bolts with metric heads so
factories there could use metric tools<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;=
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Ira Erbs<br>
Portland,OR<br>
59 BN4<br>
67MGB<br>
65 AH Sprite<br>
phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos<o:p></o:=
p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;=
mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 P=
M
WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <<a href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn=
.com" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">ynotink@msn.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0p=
t">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:a=
uto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I think you have it bac=
kwards.
The original GM design would have used the
UNC thread pattern with a 9/16=E2=80=9D bolt hea=
d.
The design predated metrification in the US
by a few decades. When Rover went metric,
sometime in the 80s probably, they retained
the US standard thread pattern while
changing to a metric standard bolt head. It
would probably have been more costly to
retool the engine castings to switch to a
metric thread pattern.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:a=
uto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:a=
uto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Bill Lawrence <o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:a=
uto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">BN1 #554<o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:center" a=
lign=3D"center"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">
<hr width=3D"98%" size=3D"2" align=3D"center"></sp=
an></div>
<div id=3D"m_1653997730557240969m_6037447791772944075d=
ivRplyFwdMsg">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:a=
uto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style=3D"color:black" lang=3D"EN-GB=
">From:</span></b><span style=3D"color:black" lang=3D"EN-GB"> i erbs
<<a href=3D"mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13
PM<br>
<b>To:</b> WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <<a href=3D"mai=
lto:ynotink@msn.com" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">ynotink@msn.=
com</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexa=
revel.plus.com" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">simon.lachlan@ale=
xarevel.plus.com</a>
<<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.p=
lus.com" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel=
.plus.com</a>>;
Patrick & Caroline Quinn <<a href=3D"mail=
to:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">p_cquinn@=
tpg.com.au</a>>;
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team=
.net" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&=
gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant</span=
><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt=
:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt=
:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Gm did that to rationalize
tools as you say, but save money on not
converting thread and pitch to metric. I
had a 87 Olds with that exact situation.
But also standards bolts heads too in some
areas. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-a=
lt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Ira Erbs<br>
Portland,OR<br>
59 BN4<br>
67MGB<br>
65 AH Sprite<br>
phone makes it's own choices. Forgive
typos<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:a=
uto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p></span=
></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-top-a=
lt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">On Thu, Apr 23, 202=
0, 11:39
AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <<a href=3D"mailto:=
ynotink@msn.com" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">ynotink@msn.com<=
/a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid=
#CCCCCC
1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0p=
t">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-t=
op-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"color:black" lang=3D"=
EN-GB">In
the midst of my recent Rover V8
rebuild I was surprised to discover
that while all of the fasteners used
metric wrench sizes many in the
short block used the UNC thread type
ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13 mm
head. I assume that Rover simply
continued the UNC pattern of the
original GM castings and changed the
head size to simplify tool
inventory.</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-t=
op-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"color:black" lang=3D"=
EN-GB"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-t=
op-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"color:black" lang=3D"=
EN-GB">Bill
Lawrence</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p=
></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-t=
op-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span style=3D"color:black" lang=3D"=
EN-GB">BN1
#554</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
</div>
<div class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:c=
enter" align=3D"center"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">
<hr width=3D"98%" size=3D"2" align=3D"cent=
er"></span></div>
<div id=3D"m_1653997730557240969m_603744779177=
2944075x_m_2173325284267159273divRplyFwdMsg">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin-t=
op-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><b><span style=3D"color:black" lang=3D=
"EN-GB">From:</span></b><span style=3D"color:black" lang=3D"EN-GB">
Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bo=
unces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">healeys-bou=
nces@autox.team.net</a>>
on behalf of <a href=3D"mailto:simon.lac=
hlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">simon.l=
achlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>
<<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alex=
arevel.plus.com" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">simon.lachlan@al=
exarevel.plus.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 23,
2020 12:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> 'Patrick & Caroline
Quinn' <<a href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@tp=
g.com.au" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>=
><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' <<a href=3D"mail=
to:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">healey=
s@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys]
Today's Rant</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mso-margin=
-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> <o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-GB">I have a vague
memory of what we called
=E2=80=9CTransitional Rovers=E2=80=9D i=
e a mix of
Imperial and Metric. All =C2=BE tonner=
long wheel-base. All UK based.
They may have been peculiar to the
army.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Glad I wasn=E2=80=99=
t in
REME=E2=80=A6..they had to maintain th=
em.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Simon<o:p></o:p></=
span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:sol=
id
#E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
0in 0in">
<p><b><span lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span=
></b><span lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">healeys-bounces@auto=
x.team.net</a>>
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
& Caroline Quinn<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2020
00:23<br>
<b>To:</b> 'David Nock' <<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">=
healeydoc@gmail.com</a>>;
'Michael MacLean' <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">rr=
engineer.mike@att.net</a>><br>
<b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' <<a href=3D=
"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">h=
ealeys@autox.team.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys]
Today's Rant</span><span lang=3D"E=
N-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> <o:p></o:p><=
/span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">G=E2=80=99day</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU"> </span><span=
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Not long after I
bought my first 100 back in 1972 I
turned 21 and one of the birthday
gifts I received was a set of BSF
spanners and sockets. I still have
them.</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p>=
</o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU"> </span><span=
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Now I have three
sets of tools. BSF for the Healey
Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and
metric for the Hilux, Mercedes and
around the house. There are many
variations of each for specific
purposes.</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU"> </span><span=
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Hoo Roo</span><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU"> </span><span=
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Patrick Quinn</spa=
n><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Blue Mountains,
Australia</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU"> </span><span=
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:sol=
id
#B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in
0in 0in">
<p><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;=
font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang=3D"EN-US">From:<=
/span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",&qu=
ot;sans-serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"> Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-boun=
ces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">mailto:healey=
s-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>David
Nock<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 22
April 2020 11:59 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael MacLean<br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys]
Today's Rant</span><span lang=3D"E=
N-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU"> </span><span=
lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">All the threads
on the 100/4 engine are BSF not
Whitworth. Whitworth is a coarse=
thread. </span><span lang=3D"EN-G=
B"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">However the
wrench sizes are
interchangeable. They are one
size apart from each other. </s=
pan><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU"> </span><sp=
an lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-AU">The threads on the
small plate are 1/4 bsf and the
gen bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also
look close there are some of the
studs that go thru into the
cooling system. </span><span la=
ng=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">David Nock</=
span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU"> </span=
><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Sent from my
iPhone</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-AU"> </span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-AU">On Apr 21, 2020,
at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean
<<a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.m=
ike@att.net" target=3D"_blank" moz-do-not-send=3D"true">rrengineer.mike@att.=
net</a>>
wrote:</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;ma=
rgin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<p><span style=3D"font-family:"=
Tahoma","sans-serif"" lang=3D"EN-AU">=EF=BB=BF</span><span la=
ng=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<div>
<div>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">So, I
am getting ready to
install the head on my
100 short block. Made
sure all the intake
valves have the new
seals I bought from
British Car Specialists
plus the new set of
springs I already had
for the valves. The tw=
o
mating surfaces were
cleaned with a white
(finest grit) Roloc
brush. I have the
correct head gasket
(copper faced).
Tonight was the night to
torque the head down to
the block. My surprise=
,
for some stupid reason I
only ordered 8 new head
nuts. I managed to
order the correct amount
of washer for the head. =
;
No idea what my pea
brain was thinking.
Also found out the head
nuts are Whitworth
(3/8") size. I h=
ave a
Whitworth socket set, so
tragedy averted there. =
I seem to remember
someone talking about
the water jacket
blanking plate earlier
this week. That made m=
e
look at the front of my
block. Three studs and=
an empty hole. No
cover. I managed to
find two blanking covers
in my stash of parts and
a gasket in my gasket
set. Woohoo, but no
nuts or lock washers.
Can someone tell me if
these little nuts that I
do not have are
Whitworth nuts. If so,=
what size? I have a
generator bracket, but
there are no threaded
studs for the block or
nuts to mount it with. =
Once again, Whitworth? =
The closer I get to
putting this together
the more stuff I find
out I don't have.</span><spa=
n lang=3D"EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p><span lang=3D"EN-AU">Mike
MacLean</span><span lang=3D"=
EN-GB"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
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