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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2020 20:53:18 -0700
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... and 2.2 pounds in a 'key.'  Honestly, anyone with any 
schooling/training in engineering or science is comfortable with both 
systems*; well, maybe the 'born-metric' types don't know what a furlong 
is (but there's always Google).  Read somewhere--Carroll Smith's 
'Fasteners' book; aka 'Screw to Win' probably--that the Whitworth thread 
design is inherently superior to metric, but I guess that ship has sailed.

* Maybe shouldn't be too comfortable if you're programming rocket launch 
trajectories.

Bob

On 4/24/2020 11:51 AM, Michael Oritt wrote:
> Metrification has been a success in the street drug trade:  Every 
> school kid knows that there are 28 grams in an ounce.
>
> Best--Michael Oritt
>
> On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:12 PM i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com 
>
>     Yup,
>     The US was going to convert, but busineses and manufacturers
>     raised a storm over the cost to convert, so it never
>     officially happened.
>
>     Ira Erbs
>     Portland,OR
>     59 BN4
>     67MGB
>     65 AH Sprite
>     phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos
>
>     On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15 AM <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
>
>         â??Flirtedâ??? To tell the truth, Iâ??d never given it much thought
>         but had â??assumedâ?? that the US had resisted metrification.
>         Donâ??t I recall that all oil-producing kit is Imperial because
>         of US domination in that area? And planes��?
>
>         I do know that, when Ted â??The Grocerâ?? Heath dragged the UK
>         into the Common Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There
>         were some hiccups along the way. A pint of beer remains a
>         pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk bottles still existed.
>
>         EU: â??You must cease drinking pints forthwith. You will obeyâ??.
>
>         UK: â??Wonâ??t. Canâ??t. Shanâ??tâ??.
>
>         Etcetc Finally:
>
>         EU: â??You will obeyâ??.
>
>         UK: â??OK. We will keep pint glasses (From which we will drink
>         proper beer unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to
>         those glasses as â??pintsâ?? whilst acknowledging that they contain
>
>         568.261ml litres each.
>
>         EU: â??Zut, alors. We surrender. Have some cheeseâ??.
>
>         Arenâ??t we all allowed the occasional rant?
>
>         Simon
>
>         *Sent:* 24 April 2020 02:55
>         *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com
>         *Cc:* simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
>         *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>
>         When the US flirted with metrifying and production when to
>         canada and mexico they made standard threaded bolts with
>         metric heads so factories there could use metric tools
>
>         Ira Erbs
>         Portland,OR
>         59 BN4
>         67MGB
>         65 AH Sprite
>         phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos
>
>         On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE
>
>             I think you have it backwards. The original GM design
>             would have used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16â?? bolt
>             head. The design predated metrification in the US by a few
>             decades. When Rover went metric, sometime in the 80s
>             probably, they retained the US standard thread pattern
>             while changing to a metric standard bolt head. It would
>             probably have been more costly to retool the engine
>             castings to switch to a metric thread pattern.
>
>             Bill Lawrence
>
>             BN1 #554
>
>             
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>             *From:*i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com
>             *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13 PM
>             *To:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com
>             *Cc:* simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
>             <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
>             Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au
>             *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>
>             Gm did that to rationalize tools as you say, but save
>             money on not converting thread and pitch to metric. I had
>             a 87 Olds with that exact situation. But also standards
>             bolts heads too in some areas.
>
>             Ira Erbs
>             Portland,OR
>             59 BN4
>             67MGB
>             65 AH Sprite
>             phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos
>
>             On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE
>
>                 In the midst of my recent Rover V8 rebuild I was
>                 surprised to discover that while all of the fasteners
>                 used metric wrench sizes many in the short block used
>                 the UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse bolt with a 13
>                 mm head. I assume that Rover simply continued the UNC
>                 pattern of the original GM castings and changed the
>                 head size to simplify tool inventory.
>
>                 Bill Lawrence
>
>                 BN1 #554
>
>                 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
>                 simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
>                 <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
>                 *Sent:* Thursday, April 23, 2020 12:20 AM
>                 *To:* 'Patrick & Caroline Quinn' <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au
>                 *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net
>                 *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>
>                 I have a vague memory of what we called â??Transitional
>                 Roversâ?? ie a mix of Imperial and Metric. All ¾ tonner
>                 long wheel-base. All UK based. They may have been
>                 peculiar to the army.
>
>                 Glad I wasnâ??t in REMEâ?¦..they had to maintain them.
>
>                 Simon
>
>                 *From:*Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
>                 *Patrick & Caroline Quinn
>                 *Sent:* 23 April 2020 00:23
>                 *To:* 'David Nock' <healeydoc@gmail.com
>                 *Cc:* 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net
>                 *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>
>                 Gâ??day
>
>                 Not long after I bought my first 100 back in 1972 I
>                 turned 21 and one of the birthday gifts I received was
>                 a set of BSF spanners and sockets. I still have them.
>
>                 Now I have three sets of tools. BSF for the Healey
>                 Saloon. AF for the 100 BN3 and metric for the Hilux,
>                 Mercedes and around the house. There are many
>                 variations of each for specific purposes.
>
>                 Hoo Roo
>
>                 Patrick Quinn
>
>                 Blue Mountains, Australia
>
>                 *From:*Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net]
>                 *On Behalf Of *David Nock
>                 *Sent:* Wednesday, 22 April 2020 11:59 PM
>                 *To:* Michael MacLean
>                 *Cc:* Healeys
>                 *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant
>
>                 All the threads on the 100/4 engine are BSF not
>                 Whitworth.  Whitworth is a coarse thread.
>
>                 However the wrench sizes are interchangeable. They are
>                 one size apart from each other.
>
>                 The threads on the small plate are 1/4 bsf and the gen
>                 bracket is 5/16 bsf. Also look close there are some of
>                 the studs that go thru into the cooling system.
>
>                 David Nock
>
>                 Sent from my iPhone
>
>                 On Apr 21, 2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael MacLean
>                 <rrengineer.mike@att.net
>
>                     
>
>                     So, I am getting ready to install the head on my
>                     100 short block.  Made sure all the intake valves
>                     have the new seals I bought from British Car
>                     Specialists plus the new set of springs I already
>                     had for the valves.  The two mating surfaces were
>                     cleaned with a white (finest grit) Roloc brush.  I
>                     have the correct head gasket (copper faced).
>                     Tonight was the night to torque the head down to
>                     the block.  My surprise, for some stupid reason I
>                     only ordered 8 new head nuts.  I managed to order
>                     the correct amount of washer for the head.  No
>                     idea what my pea brain was thinking.  Also found
>                     out the head nuts are Whitworth (3/8") size.  I
>                     have a Whitworth socket set, so tragedy averted
>                     there.  I seem to remember someone talking about
>                     the water jacket blanking plate earlier this
>                     week.  That made me look at the front of my
>                     block.  Three studs and an empty hole.  No cover. 
>                     I managed to find two blanking covers in my stash
>                     of parts and a gasket in my gasket set. Woohoo,
>                     but no nuts or lock washers.  Can someone tell me
>                     if these little nuts that I do not have are
>                     Whitworth nuts.  If so, what size?  I have a
>                     generator bracket, but there are no threaded studs
>                     for the block or nuts to mount it with.  Once
>                     again, Whitworth?  The closer I get to putting
>                     this together the more stuff I find out I don't have.
>
>                     Mike MacLean
>
>


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    ... and 2.2 pounds in a 'key.'  Honestly, anyone with any
    schooling/training in engineering or science is comfortable with
    both systems*; well, maybe the 'born-metric' types don't know what a
    furlong is (but there's always Google).  Read somewhere--Carroll
    Smith's 'Fasteners' book; aka 'Screw to Win' probably--that the
    Whitworth thread design is inherently superior to metric, but I
    guess that ship has sailed.<br>
    <br>
    * Maybe shouldn't be too comfortable if you're programming rocket
    launch trajectories.<br>
    <br>
    Bob<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 4/24/2020 11:51 AM, Michael Oritt
      wrote:<br>
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        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Metrification
          has been a success in the street drug trade:  Every school kid
          knows that there are 28 grams in an ounce.</div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff"><br>
        </div>
        <div class="gmail_default" style="color:#3333ff">Best--Michael
          Oritt </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class="gmail_quote">
        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 12:12
          PM i erbs &lt;<a href="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com";
            moz-do-not-send="true">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
          <div dir="auto">Yup,
            <div dir="auto">The US was going to convert, but busineses
              and manufacturers raised a storm over the cost to convert,
              so it never officially happened. <br>
              <br>
              <div dir="auto">Ira Erbs<br>
                Portland,OR<br>
                59 BN4<br>
                67MGB<br>
                65 AH Sprite<br>
                phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos</div>
            </div>
          </div>
          <br>
          <div class="gmail_quote">
            <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Fri, Apr 24, 2020, 2:15
              AM &lt;<a href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
                target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;
              wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
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                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>â??Flirtedâ??? To tell the
                      truth, Iâ??d never given it much thought but had
                      â??assumedâ?? that the US had resisted metrification.
                      Donâ??t I recall that all oil-producing kit is
                      Imperial because of US domination in that area?
                      And planes��?</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>I do know that, when Ted
                      â??The Grocerâ?? Heath dragged the UK into the Common
                      Market, we were supposed to go Metric. There were
                      some hiccups along the way. A pint of beer remains
                      a pint. As did a pint of milk whilst milk bottles
                      still existed. </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>EU: â??You must cease
                      drinking pints forthwith. You will obeyâ??.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>UK: â??Wonâ??t. Canâ??t. 
Shanâ??tâ??.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Etcetc Finally:</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>EU: â??You will obeyâ??.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>UK: â??OK. We will keep pint
                      glasses (From which we will drink proper beer
                      unlike your pallid Europ*ss). We will refer to
                      those glasses as â??pintsâ?? whilst acknowledging that
                      they contain</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>568.261ml litres each.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>EU: â??Zut, alors. We
                      surrender. Have some cheeseâ??.</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Arenâ??t we all allowed the
                      occasional rant?</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span>Simon</span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span> </span></p>
                  <div
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                    <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span 
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                        lang="EN-US"> i erbs &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com";
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;
                        <br>
                        <b>Sent:</b> 24 April 2020 02:55<br>
                        <b>To:</b> WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:ynotink@msn.com"; rel="noreferrer"
                          target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">ynotink@msn.com</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b>Cc:</b> <a
                          href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>;
                        Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au";
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          moz-do-not-send="true">p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>&gt;;
                        Healeys &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                          rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                          
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                        <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant</span></p>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <div>
                    <p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">When
                      the US flirted with metrifying and production when
                      to canada and mexico they made standard threaded
                      bolts with metric heads so factories there could
                      use metric tools</p>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">Ira Erbs<br>
                        Portland,OR<br>
                        59 BN4<br>
                        67MGB<br>
                        65 AH Sprite<br>
                        phone makes it's own choices. Forgive typos</p>
                    </div>
                  </div>
                  <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                  <div>
                    <div>
                      <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 23, 2020, 6:17 PM
                        WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &lt;<a
                          href="mailto:ynotink@msn.com"; rel="noreferrer"
                          target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">ynotink@msn.com</a>&gt;
                        wrote:</p>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal">I think you have it
                            backwards. The original GM design would have
                            used the UNC thread pattern with a 9/16â??
                            bolt head. The design predated metrification
                            in the US by a few decades. When Rover went
                            metric, sometime in the 80s probably, they
                            retained the US standard thread pattern
                            while changing to a metric standard bolt
                            head. It would probably have been more
                            costly to retool the engine castings to
                            switch to a metric thread pattern.</p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">Bill Lawrence </p>
                        </div>
                        <div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal">BN1 #554</p>
                        </div>
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                          <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                                style="color:black">From:</span></b><span
                              style="color:black"> i erbs &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com";
                                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                
moz-do-not-send="true">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br>
                              <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 23, 2020 7:13
                              PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:ynotink@msn.com";
                                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                
moz-do-not-send="true">ynotink@msn.com</a>&gt;<br>
                              <b>Cc:</b> <a
                                href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
                                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>
                              &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
                                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;;
                              Patrick &amp; Caroline Quinn &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au";
                                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                
moz-do-not-send="true">p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>&gt;;
                              Healeys &lt;<a
                                href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                                rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Today's Rant</span>
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                          </div>
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                        <div>
                          <div>
                            <p class="MsoNormal"
                              style="margin-bottom:12pt">Gm did that to
                              rationalize tools as you say, but save
                              money on not converting thread and pitch
                              to metric. I had a 87 Olds with that exact
                              situation. But also standards bolts heads
                              too in some areas. </p>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">Ira Erbs<br>
                                Portland,OR<br>
                                59 BN4<br>
                                67MGB<br>
                                65 AH Sprite<br>
                                phone makes it's own choices. Forgive
                                typos</p>
                            </div>
                          </div>
                          <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                          <div>
                            <div>
                              <p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 23, 2020,
                                11:39 AM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &lt;<a
                                  href="mailto:ynotink@msn.com";
                                  rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                  moz-do-not-send="true">ynotink@msn.com</a>&gt;
                                wrote:</p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-size:12pt;color:black">In
                                      the midst of my recent Rover V8
                                      rebuild I was surprised to
                                      discover that while all of the
                                      fasteners used metric wrench sizes
                                      many in the short block used the
                                      UNC thread type ie: a 3/8" coarse
                                      bolt with a 13 mm head. I assume
                                      that Rover simply continued the
                                      UNC pattern of the original GM
                                      castings and changed the head size
                                      to simplify tool inventory.</span></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      
style="font-size:12pt;color:black"> </span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-size:12pt;color:black">Bill
                                      Lawrence</span></p>
                                </div>
                                <div>
                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><span
                                      style="font-size:12pt;color:black">BN1
                                      #554</span></p>
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                                  <p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
                                        
style="color:black">From:</span></b><span
                                      style="color:black"> Healeys &lt;<a
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel="noreferrer"
                                        target="_blank"
                                        
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                                      on behalf of <a
                                        
href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>
                                      &lt;<a
                                        
href="mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        
moz-do-not-send="true">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 23,
                                      2020 12:20 AM<br>
                                      <b>To:</b> 'Patrick &amp; Caroline
                                      Quinn' &lt;<a
                                        href="mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au";
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        
moz-do-not-send="true">p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;<a
                                        href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";
                                        rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                        
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                                      <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys]
                                      Today's Rant</span> </p>
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                                    <p>I have a vague memory of what we
                                      called â??Transitional Roversâ?? ie a
                                      mix of Imperial and Metric. All ¾
                                      tonner long wheel-base. All UK
                                      based. They may have been peculiar
                                      to the army.</p>
                                    <p>Glad I wasnâ??t in REMEâ?¦..they had
                                      to maintain them.</p>
                                    <p>Simon</p>
                                    <p> </p>
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                                        <p><b><span 
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
                                            lang="EN-US"> Healeys &lt;<a
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel="noreferrer"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
                                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>Patrick
                                            &amp; Caroline Quinn<br>
                                            <b>Sent:</b> 23 April 2020
                                            00:23<br>
                                            <b>To:</b> 'David Nock' &lt;<a
href="mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com"; rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                              
moz-do-not-send="true">healeydoc@gmail.com</a>&gt;;
                                            'Michael MacLean' &lt;<a
                                              
href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";
                                              rel="noreferrer"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              
moz-do-not-send="true">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt;<br>
                                            <b>Cc:</b> 'Healeys' &lt;<a
href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"
                                              
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>
                                            <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                            [Healeys] Today's Rant</span></p>
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                                    <p> </p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU">Gâ??day</span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU">Not long after
                                        I bought my first 100 back in
                                        1972 I turned 21 and one of the
                                        birthday gifts I received was a
                                        set of BSF spanners and sockets.
                                        I still have them.</span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU">Now I have
                                        three sets of tools. BSF for the
                                        Healey Saloon. AF for the 100
                                        BN3 and metric for the Hilux,
                                        Mercedes and around the house.
                                        There are many variations of
                                        each for specific purposes.</span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU">Hoo Roo</span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU">Patrick 
Quinn</span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU">Blue
                                        Mountains, Australia</span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
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                                        <p><b><span
                                              
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                                              lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif" lang="EN-US">
                                            Healeys [<a
                                              
href="mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";
                                              rel="noreferrer"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              
moz-do-not-send="true">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
                                            <b>On Behalf Of </b>David
                                            Nock<br>
                                            <b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 22
                                            April 2020 11:59 PM<br>
                                            <b>To:</b> Michael MacLean<br>
                                            <b>Cc:</b> Healeys<br>
                                            <b>Subject:</b> Re:
                                            [Healeys] Today's Rant</span></p>
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                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                    <p><span lang="EN-AU">All the
                                        threads on the 100/4 engine are
                                        BSF not Whitworth.  Whitworth is
                                        a coarse thread. </span></p>
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                                      <p><span lang="EN-AU">However the
                                          wrench sizes are
                                          interchangeable. They are one
                                          size apart from each 
other. </span></p>
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                                      <p><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
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                                      <p style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span
                                          lang="EN-AU">The threads on
                                          the small plate are 1/4 bsf
                                          and the gen bracket is 5/16
                                          bsf. Also look close there are
                                          some of the studs that go thru
                                          into the cooling system. </span></p>
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                                          <p><span lang="EN-AU">David
                                              Nock</span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <div>
                                          <p><span lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                        </div>
                                        <p><span lang="EN-AU">Sent from
                                            my iPhone</span></p>
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                                        <p style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span
                                            lang="EN-AU"> </span></p>
                                        <p style="margin-bottom:12pt"><span
                                            lang="EN-AU">On Apr 21,
                                            2020, at 10:18 PM, Michael
                                            MacLean &lt;<a
                                              
href="mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net";
                                              rel="noreferrer"
                                              target="_blank"
                                              
moz-do-not-send="true">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt;
                                            wrote:</span></p>
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                                              <p><span lang="EN-AU">So,
                                                  I am getting ready to
                                                  install the head on my
                                                  100 short block.  Made
                                                  sure all the intake
                                                  valves have the new
                                                  seals I bought from
                                                  British Car
                                                  Specialists plus the
                                                  new set of springs I
                                                  already had for the
                                                  valves.  The two
                                                  mating surfaces were
                                                  cleaned with a white
                                                  (finest grit) Roloc
                                                  brush.  I have the
                                                  correct head gasket
                                                  (copper faced).  
                                                  Tonight was the night
                                                  to torque the head
                                                  down to the block.  My
                                                  surprise, for some
                                                  stupid reason I only
                                                  ordered 8 new head
                                                  nuts.  I managed to
                                                  order the correct
                                                  amount of washer for
                                                  the head.  No idea
                                                  what my pea brain was
                                                  thinking.  Also found
                                                  out the head nuts are
                                                  Whitworth (3/8") 
                                                  size.  I have a
                                                  Whitworth socket set,
                                                  so tragedy averted
                                                  there.  I seem to
                                                  remember someone
                                                  talking about the
                                                  water jacket blanking
                                                  plate earlier this
                                                  week.  That made me
                                                  look at the front of
                                                  my block.  Three studs
                                                  and an empty hole.  No
                                                  cover.  I managed to
                                                  find two blanking
                                                  covers in my stash of
                                                  parts and a gasket in
                                                  my gasket set. 
                                                  Woohoo, but no nuts or
                                                  lock washers.  Can
                                                  someone tell me if
                                                  these little nuts that
                                                  I do not have are
                                                  Whitworth nuts.  If
                                                  so, what size?  I have
                                                  a generator bracket,
                                                  but there are no
                                                  threaded studs for the
                                                  block or nuts to mount
                                                  it with.  Once again,
                                                  Whitworth?  The closer
                                                  I get to putting this
                                                  together the more
                                                  stuff I find out I
                                                  don't have.</span></p>
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                                              <p><span lang="EN-AU">Mike
                                                  MacLean</span></p>
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