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Re: Tragedy in the USA -Eyewitness Account

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Subject: Re: Tragedy in the USA -Eyewitness Account
From: "E.Noval" <hyper.aion@verizon.net>
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2001 22:56:18 -0400
I was in NYC today when all of this happened, and to see 3 skyscrapers 
topple in the midst of crowded streets
(as you saw on tv) is a hell of a nitemare come true.

 I spoke to NYC policemen getting off shift, covered in ashes with
tears in their eyes. For an hour or two, we really thought NY (and the 
US) was under attack, and "this was the end".

It took me 5 hours to get back to my place and now ashes and smoke have 
descended on everything here.
The smell is so strong tonite .... I thought my own place was on fire !

But I have to speak up about this racism against arabs and muslims.
Condemning all muslims is wrong !! I have good muslim friends, Ive dated 
muslim girls.

You might as well claim that Christians are all to blame for groups like 
"heavens gate" and "wako".
We had our own "Tim Mcvay" and we've caused genocide against Native 
Americans, and dropped atom bombs
on innocent japanese citizens.(as someone posted)

I agree that we should hunt down the terrorists and if they are not 
turned over by some country,
to take actions against that country, up to an including war.

But the muslim bashing has gone far enough today.  

-ed
68 2000
NJ-NYC


Eric Frisbee wrote:

>Good points, but you are wrong about our good buddy Moammar...  he was out
>yakking bad about the USA just last week.
>And what about the civilians cheering and partying in the streets over
>there?
>
>I got a great place to get rid of nuclear weapons...  radioactive glass
>anyone???
>
>Eric
>"slightly"  bitter after spending a day locked behind blast doors...
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Gordon Glasgow <gsglasgow@home.com>
>To: <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 8:15 PM
>Subject: RE: Tragedy in the USA -Eyewitness Account
>
>
>>I understand emotionally where some (many) of you are coming from on this,
>>
>but I
>
>>don't think that's the correct course of action. Sure, I want to see
>>
>someone get
>
>>spanked big-time for this, but nuking a country of civilians isn't the
>>
>answer.
>
>>Neither is attempting genocide against any group.
>>
>>First, Afghanistan is in the middle of a revolution right now. The Taliban
>>
>is in
>
>>control of most of the country and is harboring Osama bin Laden. But does
>>
>that
>
>>make all Afghani citizens guilty? How many of us would like to be
>>
>personally
>
>>blamed for the actions of (choose one or more)
>>
>Bush/Clinton/Reagan/Nixon/etc.?
>
>>The bombing in Kabul today was probably in retaliation for the attempted
>>asassination of the opposition leader a few days ago. Would I like to see
>>
>the
>
>>Taliban taken out? Sure. WOuld I like to see all the citizens killed for
>>something they had no control over? No.
>>
>>Second, if we escalate to nukes, that will make the terrorists feel
>>
>justified in
>
>>using chemical or biological weapons against us (or any other Western
>>
>power for
>
>>that matter). Not a pretty picture. They may get to that point anyway, but
>>
>let's
>
>>not give them the excuse.
>>
>>Third, if we strike back against a civilian target, that will make them
>>
>hate us
>
>>even more. Then we devolve on both sides into the same vicious cycle of
>>attack/counterattack that is engulfing the whole Middle East right now.
>>
>"Give in
>
>>to the dark side of the Force and forever will it rule your life." Okay,
>>
>so a
>
>>fictional movie character said it, it's still true.
>>
>>Finally, genocide has been attempted by many groups over the centuries and
>>
>it
>
>>has always failed. Nazi Germany. Pol Pot regime in Cambodia. Indonesia in
>>
>East
>
>>Timor. The list goes on and on. It ALWAYS fails. The side attempting it is
>>always condemned by history.
>>
>>It isn't a matter of being politically correct, it is a question of being
>>morally correct. If we are going to be the bastion of freedom and
>>
>fairness, and
>
>>also be the biggest kid on the block, we MUST act with some restraint.
>>
>Strength,
>
>>yes, but carefully targeted and applied with restraint. Notice how quiet
>>
>Moammar
>
>>Khaddafi has been lately?
>>
>>Gordon Glasgow
>>Renton, WA
>>
>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
>>>[mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of
>>>jon_wissler@pngc.com
>>>Sent: Tuesday, September 11, 2001 5:29 PM
>>>To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
>>>Subject: Re: Tragedy in the USA -Eyewitness Account
>>>
>>>
>>>Here here on the nukes.  I'm tired of being everybody elses politically
>>>correct whipping boy.  Call me a redneck, but I'm tired of it.  The rest
>>>of the world community seems to live by their own rules, I say it's time
>>>to take some people "out" that cause a huge danger to the 95% of us that
>>>try to live peacefully and respectfully with one another.

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