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Re: Accident Reports

To: craig boyle <craig_autox@yahoo.com>, Jerry Mouton
Subject: Re: Accident Reports
From: "Pat Kelly" <lollipop487@home.com>
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 10:10:03 -0700
I'm sure you've noticed that San Francisco Region (road racing arm) itself
has only one open meeting a year...and I've heard over the years that no one
really cares about history. :)
--Pat Kelly
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>From: craig boyle <craig_autox@yahoo.com>
>To: Jerry Mouton <jerry@moutons.org>, Bay_Area_Autocross_List
<ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: Accident Reports
>Date: Thu, Oct 25, 2001, 9:46 AM
>

>Maybe just archiving approved minutes on the web would
>be a good thing? (yes, happy to volunteer to do
>this...) 
>
>It would certainly give us a real reference for local
>rules, decisions and their history. This is especially
>imprortant given the huge turnover of autoxers.
>
>Remember that 95% of members don't attend meetings,
>for whatever reason. Other clubs get more like 30-60%
>attendance. 
>
>Craig
>
>--- Jerry Mouton <jerry@moutons.org> wrote:
>> Craig,
>> 
>> Agenda is usually developed in the day or two before
>> the meeting,
>> too late for publication.  Further, anyone (even if
>> you are not
>> a member of the SC) can get on the agenda just by
>> showing up at
>> the meeting.
>> 
>> Minutes are not approved till the following month's
>> meeting, so
>> they would always be at least that late.  Lots of
>> additional
>> work for your overburdened webmaster, too.  Further,
>> nobody would read them.  Nobody reads them in the
>> Wheel
>> even today.
>> 
>> People come from Pleasanton and farther to the SC
>> meetings.
>> It's tough, it's boring, but if someone wants to
>> have a influence,
>> I don't think it's much to ask.  I have always felt
>> it was part of
>> my duty as someone enjoying autocrosses, to do my
>> part or more
>> to keep them going.
>> 
>> I think it's worth pointing out to new autocrossers
>> that
>> SFR is not a republic, where there are
>> representatives doing your
>> will.  It's a democracy, where those who show up get
>> a vote,
>> those who do not show up get to take what voters
>> decide.
>> Anybody can show up and get a vote (after showing up
>> enough).
>> It's all here:
>> http://www.sfrscca.org/solo2/committee.html
>> 
>> The Solo2 process is open to anyone, but you have to
>> take the steps
>> to be heard.  And it's funny to complain about a
>> closed system
>> when in actuality one simply won't step into the
>> room through the
>> open door.
>> 
>> Jerry
>> 
>> Jerry Mouton        mailto:jerry@moutons.org   
>> Laissez les bons temps
>> rouler!
>> 
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "craig boyle" <craig_autox@yahoo.com>
>> To: "Rich Urschel" <OSP13@attglobal.net>; "Dennis
>> Hale"
>> <dhale_510@yahoo.com>
>> Cc: <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2001 8:31 AM
>> Subject: Re: Accident Reports
>> 
>> 
>> > Meetings would seem more "open" if the
>> minutes/agenda
>> > were published on the website, rather than just
>> months
>> > later in the Wheel. Just my $0.02. Not everyone
>> lives
>> > next to Coco's.
>> >
>> > --- Rich Urschel <OSP13@attglobal.net> wrote:
>> > ...
>> > > that SFR
>> > > holds open monthly meetings, why don't you come
>> by
>> > > and ask what has been discovered? So far, I have
>> > ...
>> >
>> >
>> > Craig
>> > Make a great connection at Yahoo! Personals.
>> > http://personals.yahoo.com
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