hhmmm...I don't know. Them trailers look like they'd need more attention
than my car. The red one with the white top looks cool. :-)
-Arnold
"Gee, Brain. What are we going to do tonight?"
"Same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try and take over the world!"
>From: Darren Madams <darren@madams.com>
>To: jim_ochi@yahoo.com (Jim Ochi)
>CC: the_brain7@hotmail.com (Clifford Richardson), ba-autox@autox.team.net
>Subject: Re: Sac events 9 & 10, V700s and crazy people
>Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 11:37:09 -0700 (PDT)
>
>Or the other option is the Randy Chase Teardrop trailer setup.
>You can get old vintage ones, or new reproductions, but they
>really do contain nearly everything you could need at an autox
>for considerably less than an RV or enclosed sleeper trailer
>that would require a big truck to tow.
>
>http://www.chases.org/teardrop/teardrops.html
>Looks like he broke the images links, but they're all there in
>the directory:
>http://www.chases.org/teardrop/
>
> --Darren
>
>Jim Ochi wrote:
> > I got my trailer used from Charlie Davis - I think it's a Ford utility
> > trailer from the mid-80s. As far as I know, it's not made anymore.
> >
> > For tire trailers, there are basically two ways to go. Cheap or
> > expensive. Cheap is the way that most people go - get the Harbor
>Freight
> > trailer frame (if you can, get the one with the bigger, 12" wheels),
>then
> > build a rack for your tires and bolt on a big box for the rest of your
> > junk. Randy has a pretty nice setup, and so does Scot Zediker, Harold
> > Olson, Craig Boyle, and Dennis Armstrong. Your best bet is to wander
> > around the paddock at the next few events - I'm sure you'll get a whole
> > bunch of ideas of what to build.
> >
> > If you're willing to pay the bucks, you can get a prebuilt trailer -
>here's
> > one that looks pretty nice
><http://www.southsporttrailers.com/track.html>.
> >
> > Jim
> >
> >
> > At 10:26 AM 10/9/2001 -0700, Clifford Richardson wrote:
> > >Sounds like a project. I'm not too creative when it comes to building
>stuff.
> > >You could point and say do this and do that, but left up to me, I'd
>stare at
> > >it for days before figuring out what to do. :-) Your setup sounds
>phenomenal
> > >though. Got any pics?
> > >
> > >I saw Jim this past weekend, but I didn't pay attention to his trailer.
> > >Maybe he'll see this post and chime in...His tire sizes would be more
>up my
> > >alley.
> > >
> > >-Arnold
> > >"Gee, Brain. What are we going to do tonight?"
> > >"Same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try and take over the world!"
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: Randy Noll <rnoll98@yahoo.com>
> > > >To: Clifford Richardson <the_brain7@hotmail.com>
> > > >Subject: Re: Sac events 9 & 10, V700s and crazy people
> > > >Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:31:47 -0700 (PDT)
> > > >
> > > >check out Scot Zediker's trailer (silver miata). I think his is based
> > > >on that trailer and he built a wooden box on top. Holds 8 wheels and
> > > >tools. fully enclosed.
> > > >
> > > >on mine i bolted on a 'tuf box' which is about a 100 gallon bin that
> > > >takes up the whole front half of the trailer, then put two poles to
> > > >hold tires on the back half. i drove it all the way to nationals
> > > >through thunderstorms and it worked great. The box locks, the wheels
> > > >lock, and it keeps the overall weight to a minimum.
> > > >
> > > >just some more thoughts. in my setup i can fit 6 wheels, air tank,
> > > >enough tools to pull the engine if necessary, jack, jackstands, spray
> > > >bottle, moving blanket, air compressor, and still have room for more
> > > >stuff inside the bin...
> > > >
> > > >Jim Ochi has a really slick little enclosed trailer (black M3 in
> > > >street mod). That might be the best way to go. he fits 4 wheels and
>all
> > > >his stuff in there. Not sure where he got it.
> > > >
> > > >Randy
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >--- Clifford Richardson <the_brain7@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Thanks for the website, but I'm looking for a trailer with a
>lid...
> > > > >
> > > > > -Arnold
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Randy Noll" <rnoll98@yahoo.com>
> > > > > To: "Clifford Richardson" <the_brain7@hotmail.com>
> > > > > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 1:36 PM
> > > > > Subject: Re: Sac events 9 & 10, V700s and crazy people
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Arnold,
> > > > > > Glad to see you're having so much fun. If you are going to
>continue
> > > > > to
> > > > > > run your car i'd suggest just putting everything inside the car.
> > > > > You
> > > > > > should have enough space to fit all the wheels, jack, tools,
>etc.
> > > > > (i
> > > > > > can fit all that stuff in my MR2).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I tow a trailer and it's just more fun to drive to events
>without
> > > > > > having to go 55mph on the freeway or worry about parking
>somewhere
> > > > > with
> > > > > > the trailer.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, if you're getting a miata i'd suggest the 3'x4' utility
> > > > > trailer at
> > > > > > harbor freight (www.harborfreight.com). That's what most people
> > > > > use,
> > > > > > they cost about $130-$150. You then need to find a trailer hitch
> > > > > for
> > > > > > your car (try www.hitchweb.com) Then you can use plywood and
>build
> > > > > up
> > > > > > tire racks and bolt on boxes to carry stuff in.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a trailer but if I can i'm going to start carrying the
>stuff
> > > > > in
> > > > > > the car, then just unload it all in my pit space, much easier.
> > > > > Tires
> > > > > > can go in trash bags to protect your interior. Moving blankets
>are
> > > > > nice
> > > > > > to pad everything with.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > have fun,
> > > > > > Randy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- Clifford Richardson <the_brain7@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Aaaaahhh...a whole weekend of autoxing. Can it get any better?
> > > > > > > Probably. For
> > > > > > > now, I am content. On the way home, I noticed I was flooring
>the
> > > > > gas
> > > > > > > at
> > > > > > > every green light. It took some conscious restraint to hold
> > > > > myself
> > > > > > > back.
> > > > > > > (sorry for the long post, I ramble a lot).
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I got to try, for the first time, the Kumho V700 on my car.
>Yeh,
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > little late in the game, but you have to understand something,
> > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > clueless
> > > > > > > when it comes to this kinda stuff. I mean I only recently
>learned
> > > > > > > what
> > > > > > > negative camber was! I thought it was too much work (and $$)
>for
> > > > > only
> > > > > > > 3 runs
> > > > > > > to buy a trailer, another set of tires(or an entire car), an
>air
> > > > > > > tank(or air
> > > > > > > compressor), adjust this and that, do a run, adjust air
>pressure,
> > > > > > > second
> > > > > > > run, adjust, open the hood to cool the engine then final run.
> > > > > Then
> > > > > > > change
> > > > > > > tires back, pack up and go home. All that in roughly 4 hours.
>All
> > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > doesn't include all the other work that goes into the car of
> > > > > course.
> > > > > > > These
> > > > > > > people are nuts I thought.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hehehe...please don't flame me, finish reading first. :-)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > My very first autocross was at GGF on July 15th. While I had a
> > > > > blast,
> > > > > > > I felt
> > > > > > > my automatic 318i needed a lot more power (I still do, but
>that's
> > > > > > > another
> > > > > > > story) before I could really get competitive. Many of you
> > > > > encouraged
> > > > > > > me to
> > > > > > > work on my skills rather than blaming the car (What!?!? You
>mean
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > suck!?!?). Yeh, I did get a lot better(ok, maybe just a teeny
> > > > > bit).
> > > > > > > One BMW
> > > > > > > Performance Driving School and a few (6) autocrosses later, I
> > > > > think I
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > finally learned the limits of my tires (Michelin Pilots) and
>so
> > > > > > > decided to
> > > > > > > try the Kumhos I got from Peter Thana. I was told I could
>shave
> > > > > 2-4
> > > > > > > seconds
> > > > > > > on those tires alone. Well, I put them to the test this
>weekend
> > > > > at
> > > > > > > Mather
> > > > > > > Airfield.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The course was sweeeet! It was long, challenging, had some
>wicked
> > > > > > > turns and
> > > > > > > a chicane. I'm sure someone else could explain the course
>better
> > > > > than
> > > > > > > I. All
> > > > > > > I know is I was spoilt! 4 runs!!! Sunday's course was even
> > > > > better. It
> > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > the same course, but reverse with the addition of a slalom and
> > > > > > > adjustments
> > > > > > > at the end. On both days, the weather was pleasantly cool and
> > > > > there
> > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > plenty of time for fun runs.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Talk about relearning how to drive! I was still driving like I
> > > > > was on
> > > > > > > my
> > > > > > > Pilots(read slow). In my 4 official runs, I could go no faster
> > > > > than
> > > > > > > 1:28.xxx. For comparison, Integras were pulling around
>1:22.xxx
> > > > > give
> > > > > > > or take
> > > > > > > a second. I did manage to beat only slightly heavier or less
> > > > > balanced
> > > > > > > cars.
> > > > > > > Lucky for me, the Sac chapter only has 4 run groups for the
> > > > > entire
> > > > > > > day so
> > > > > > > fun runs soon followed. It was then, I got the hang of these
> > > > > sweet
> > > > > > > tires. I
> > > > > > > cut my time by 4 secs!!! And I know I could've done better
>cause
> > > > > on
> > > > > > > both of
> > > > > > > my best runs, I screwed up in the same spots. On Sunday, my
>time
> > > > > was
> > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > consistent after dropping 3 secs off my first official run.
>Time
> > > > > > > difference
> > > > > > > just hovered b/w .2-.5 secs. best time was 1:12.917. I didn't
>do
> > > > > much
> > > > > > > better
> > > > > > > in the fun runs: 1:12.719 no cones. I did get to 1:12.2xx but
>I
> > > > > > > killed a
> > > > > > > cone. Again, i could've done better. Kept screwing up at one
> > > > > > > turn..should've
> > > > > > > taken an early apex. Anyway, by then, I noticed the tires were
> > > > > > > starting to
> > > > > > > lose grip since I got them used with virtually no thread left,
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > drove on them all weekend. Still, I was grinning like a
>Cheshire
> > > > > cat
> > > > > > > by the
> > > > > > > end of both days.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So what did I learn?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1> the difference 2-5 lbs of air pressure makes
> > > > > > > 2> brake HARD!
> > > > > > > 3> V700s ROCK!!!
> > > > > > > 4> this is gonna get expensive ;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now to most, if not all of you, this is not new. Indeed, the
> > > > > concepts
> > > > > > > were
> > > > > > > not new to me, but there's no teacher quite like personal
> > > > > experience.
> > > > > > > First
> > > > > > > thing I noticed about the V700s, they were virtually silent!
>none
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > screeching my Pilots did almost all the time. Second, these
> > > > > things
> > > > > > > STICK! I
> > > > > > > felt planted and even when I took some turns a little too
>fast,
> > > > > > > recovering
> > > > > > > was so much easier. Some guy asked what class I was running
>and
> > > > > > > couldn't
> > > > > > > believe that my car was stock! Yup, I was grinning stupidly at
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > dubious
> > > > > > > look on his face. (teehee)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks, Michael, for letting me use your air tank. It took 2
>runs
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > figure
> > > > > > > out I needed more air in my tires and boy did it make a
> > > > > difference!
> > > > > > > Liam,
> > > > > > > thanks for letting me drive your 330ci! Put V700s on it and
> > > > > you'll be
> > > > > > > faster
> > > > > > > than me!!! hehehe...And thank you all for the many pieces of
> > > > > advice,
> > > > > > > solicited or not, that have encouraged me to keep coming back.
>So
> > > > > > > now, I'm
> > > > > > > shopping for a trailer I can tow my wheels in, an air tank and
>a
> > > > > > > professional quality tire pressure gauge. I'll be ordering a
>new
> > > > > set
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > Kumhos when these are totally worn. Looks like I'm hooked. I'm
> > > > > even
> > > > > > > considered purchasing a friend's Miata as an autocross car...I
> > > > > must
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > nuts...8-]~
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks for reading if you've made it this far. I have a hard
>time
> > > > > > > reading
> > > > > > > emails that are this long.:-) So now I'm asking for more
>advice.
> > > > > What
> > > > > > > should
> > > > > > > I be looking for in a trailer?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > -Arnold
> > > > > > > "Gee, Brain. What are we going to do tonight?"
> > > > > > > "Same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try and take over the
> > > > > world!"
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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