Or the other option is the Randy Chase Teardrop trailer setup.
You can get old vintage ones, or new reproductions, but they
really do contain nearly everything you could need at an autox
for considerably less than an RV or enclosed sleeper trailer
that would require a big truck to tow.
http://www.chases.org/teardrop/teardrops.html
Looks like he broke the images links, but they're all there in
the directory:
http://www.chases.org/teardrop/
--Darren
Jim Ochi wrote:
> I got my trailer used from Charlie Davis - I think it's a Ford utility
> trailer from the mid-80s. As far as I know, it's not made anymore.
>
> For tire trailers, there are basically two ways to go. Cheap or
> expensive. Cheap is the way that most people go - get the Harbor Freight
> trailer frame (if you can, get the one with the bigger, 12" wheels), then
> build a rack for your tires and bolt on a big box for the rest of your
> junk. Randy has a pretty nice setup, and so does Scot Zediker, Harold
> Olson, Craig Boyle, and Dennis Armstrong. Your best bet is to wander
> around the paddock at the next few events - I'm sure you'll get a whole
> bunch of ideas of what to build.
>
> If you're willing to pay the bucks, you can get a prebuilt trailer - here's
> one that looks pretty nice <http://www.southsporttrailers.com/track.html>.
>
> Jim
>
>
> At 10:26 AM 10/9/2001 -0700, Clifford Richardson wrote:
> >Sounds like a project. I'm not too creative when it comes to building stuff.
> >You could point and say do this and do that, but left up to me, I'd stare at
> >it for days before figuring out what to do. :-) Your setup sounds phenomenal
> >though. Got any pics?
> >
> >I saw Jim this past weekend, but I didn't pay attention to his trailer.
> >Maybe he'll see this post and chime in...His tire sizes would be more up my
> >alley.
> >
> >-Arnold
> >"Gee, Brain. What are we going to do tonight?"
> >"Same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try and take over the world!"
> >
> >
> >
> > >From: Randy Noll <rnoll98@yahoo.com>
> > >To: Clifford Richardson <the_brain7@hotmail.com>
> > >Subject: Re: Sac events 9 & 10, V700s and crazy people
> > >Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2001 09:31:47 -0700 (PDT)
> > >
> > >check out Scot Zediker's trailer (silver miata). I think his is based
> > >on that trailer and he built a wooden box on top. Holds 8 wheels and
> > >tools. fully enclosed.
> > >
> > >on mine i bolted on a 'tuf box' which is about a 100 gallon bin that
> > >takes up the whole front half of the trailer, then put two poles to
> > >hold tires on the back half. i drove it all the way to nationals
> > >through thunderstorms and it worked great. The box locks, the wheels
> > >lock, and it keeps the overall weight to a minimum.
> > >
> > >just some more thoughts. in my setup i can fit 6 wheels, air tank,
> > >enough tools to pull the engine if necessary, jack, jackstands, spray
> > >bottle, moving blanket, air compressor, and still have room for more
> > >stuff inside the bin...
> > >
> > >Jim Ochi has a really slick little enclosed trailer (black M3 in
> > >street mod). That might be the best way to go. he fits 4 wheels and all
> > >his stuff in there. Not sure where he got it.
> > >
> > >Randy
> > >
> > >
> > >--- Clifford Richardson <the_brain7@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Thanks for the website, but I'm looking for a trailer with a lid...
> > > >
> > > > -Arnold
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Randy Noll" <rnoll98@yahoo.com>
> > > > To: "Clifford Richardson" <the_brain7@hotmail.com>
> > > > Sent: Monday, October 08, 2001 1:36 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Sac events 9 & 10, V700s and crazy people
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Arnold,
> > > > > Glad to see you're having so much fun. If you are going to continue
> > > > to
> > > > > run your car i'd suggest just putting everything inside the car.
> > > > You
> > > > > should have enough space to fit all the wheels, jack, tools, etc.
> > > > (i
> > > > > can fit all that stuff in my MR2).
> > > > >
> > > > > I tow a trailer and it's just more fun to drive to events without
> > > > > having to go 55mph on the freeway or worry about parking somewhere
> > > > with
> > > > > the trailer.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, if you're getting a miata i'd suggest the 3'x4' utility
> > > > trailer at
> > > > > harbor freight (www.harborfreight.com). That's what most people
> > > > use,
> > > > > they cost about $130-$150. You then need to find a trailer hitch
> > > > for
> > > > > your car (try www.hitchweb.com) Then you can use plywood and build
> > > > up
> > > > > tire racks and bolt on boxes to carry stuff in.
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a trailer but if I can i'm going to start carrying the stuff
> > > > in
> > > > > the car, then just unload it all in my pit space, much easier.
> > > > Tires
> > > > > can go in trash bags to protect your interior. Moving blankets are
> > > > nice
> > > > > to pad everything with.
> > > > >
> > > > > have fun,
> > > > > Randy
> > > > >
> > > > > --- Clifford Richardson <the_brain7@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Aaaaahhh...a whole weekend of autoxing. Can it get any better?
> > > > > > Probably. For
> > > > > > now, I am content. On the way home, I noticed I was flooring the
> > > > gas
> > > > > > at
> > > > > > every green light. It took some conscious restraint to hold
> > > > myself
> > > > > > back.
> > > > > > (sorry for the long post, I ramble a lot).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I got to try, for the first time, the Kumho V700 on my car. Yeh,
> > > > I'm
> > > > > > a
> > > > > > little late in the game, but you have to understand something,
> > > > I'm
> > > > > > clueless
> > > > > > when it comes to this kinda stuff. I mean I only recently learned
> > > > > > what
> > > > > > negative camber was! I thought it was too much work (and $$) for
> > > > only
> > > > > > 3 runs
> > > > > > to buy a trailer, another set of tires(or an entire car), an air
> > > > > > tank(or air
> > > > > > compressor), adjust this and that, do a run, adjust air pressure,
> > > > > > second
> > > > > > run, adjust, open the hood to cool the engine then final run.
> > > > Then
> > > > > > change
> > > > > > tires back, pack up and go home. All that in roughly 4 hours. All
> > > > > > this
> > > > > > doesn't include all the other work that goes into the car of
> > > > course.
> > > > > > These
> > > > > > people are nuts I thought.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hehehe...please don't flame me, finish reading first. :-)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My very first autocross was at GGF on July 15th. While I had a
> > > > blast,
> > > > > > I felt
> > > > > > my automatic 318i needed a lot more power (I still do, but that's
> > > > > > another
> > > > > > story) before I could really get competitive. Many of you
> > > > encouraged
> > > > > > me to
> > > > > > work on my skills rather than blaming the car (What!?!? You mean
> > > > I
> > > > > > suck!?!?). Yeh, I did get a lot better(ok, maybe just a teeny
> > > > bit).
> > > > > > One BMW
> > > > > > Performance Driving School and a few (6) autocrosses later, I
> > > > think I
> > > > > >
> > > > > > finally learned the limits of my tires (Michelin Pilots) and so
> > > > > > decided to
> > > > > > try the Kumhos I got from Peter Thana. I was told I could shave
> > > > 2-4
> > > > > > seconds
> > > > > > on those tires alone. Well, I put them to the test this weekend
> > > > at
> > > > > > Mather
> > > > > > Airfield.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The course was sweeeet! It was long, challenging, had some wicked
> > > > > > turns and
> > > > > > a chicane. I'm sure someone else could explain the course better
> > > > than
> > > > > > I. All
> > > > > > I know is I was spoilt! 4 runs!!! Sunday's course was even
> > > > better. It
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > the same course, but reverse with the addition of a slalom and
> > > > > > adjustments
> > > > > > at the end. On both days, the weather was pleasantly cool and
> > > > there
> > > > > > was
> > > > > > plenty of time for fun runs.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Talk about relearning how to drive! I was still driving like I
> > > > was on
> > > > > > my
> > > > > > Pilots(read slow). In my 4 official runs, I could go no faster
> > > > than
> > > > > > 1:28.xxx. For comparison, Integras were pulling around 1:22.xxx
> > > > give
> > > > > > or take
> > > > > > a second. I did manage to beat only slightly heavier or less
> > > > balanced
> > > > > > cars.
> > > > > > Lucky for me, the Sac chapter only has 4 run groups for the
> > > > entire
> > > > > > day so
> > > > > > fun runs soon followed. It was then, I got the hang of these
> > > > sweet
> > > > > > tires. I
> > > > > > cut my time by 4 secs!!! And I know I could've done better cause
> > > > on
> > > > > > both of
> > > > > > my best runs, I screwed up in the same spots. On Sunday, my time
> > > > was
> > > > > > more
> > > > > > consistent after dropping 3 secs off my first official run. Time
> > > > > > difference
> > > > > > just hovered b/w .2-.5 secs. best time was 1:12.917. I didn't do
> > > > much
> > > > > > better
> > > > > > in the fun runs: 1:12.719 no cones. I did get to 1:12.2xx but I
> > > > > > killed a
> > > > > > cone. Again, i could've done better. Kept screwing up at one
> > > > > > turn..should've
> > > > > > taken an early apex. Anyway, by then, I noticed the tires were
> > > > > > starting to
> > > > > > lose grip since I got them used with virtually no thread left,
> > > > and
> > > > > > also
> > > > > > drove on them all weekend. Still, I was grinning like a Cheshire
> > > > cat
> > > > > > by the
> > > > > > end of both days.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So what did I learn?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1> the difference 2-5 lbs of air pressure makes
> > > > > > 2> brake HARD!
> > > > > > 3> V700s ROCK!!!
> > > > > > 4> this is gonna get expensive ;)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now to most, if not all of you, this is not new. Indeed, the
> > > > concepts
> > > > > > were
> > > > > > not new to me, but there's no teacher quite like personal
> > > > experience.
> > > > > > First
> > > > > > thing I noticed about the V700s, they were virtually silent! none
> > > > of
> > > > > > that
> > > > > > screeching my Pilots did almost all the time. Second, these
> > > > things
> > > > > > STICK! I
> > > > > > felt planted and even when I took some turns a little too fast,
> > > > > > recovering
> > > > > > was so much easier. Some guy asked what class I was running and
> > > > > > couldn't
> > > > > > believe that my car was stock! Yup, I was grinning stupidly at
> > > > the
> > > > > > dubious
> > > > > > look on his face. (teehee)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Michael, for letting me use your air tank. It took 2 runs
> > > > to
> > > > > > figure
> > > > > > out I needed more air in my tires and boy did it make a
> > > > difference!
> > > > > > Liam,
> > > > > > thanks for letting me drive your 330ci! Put V700s on it and
> > > > you'll be
> > > > > > faster
> > > > > > than me!!! hehehe...And thank you all for the many pieces of
> > > > advice,
> > > > > > solicited or not, that have encouraged me to keep coming back. So
> > > > > > now, I'm
> > > > > > shopping for a trailer I can tow my wheels in, an air tank and a
> > > > > > professional quality tire pressure gauge. I'll be ordering a new
> > > > set
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > Kumhos when these are totally worn. Looks like I'm hooked. I'm
> > > > even
> > > > > > considered purchasing a friend's Miata as an autocross car...I
> > > > must
> > > > > > be
> > > > > > nuts...8-]~
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks for reading if you've made it this far. I have a hard time
> > > > > > reading
> > > > > > emails that are this long.:-) So now I'm asking for more advice.
> > > > What
> > > > > > should
> > > > > > I be looking for in a trailer?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -Arnold
> > > > > > "Gee, Brain. What are we going to do tonight?"
> > > > > > "Same thing we do every night, Pinky. Try and take over the
> > > > world!"
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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