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Re: SFR First Time Nationals entrants -- SFR will refund yourentrance f

To: Jerry Mouton <jerry@moutons.org>,
Subject: Re: SFR First Time Nationals entrants -- SFR will refund yourentrance fee
From: Craig Boyle <craig_boyle@yahoo.com>
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2000 11:59:25 -0700 (PDT)
Far be it from me (as a Nats first timer) to turn down
$90, but my first reaction is that this is one of
those "elitist" things that favors what will always be
a small minority in the club. 

The sentiment's right, however.

Craig

--- Jerry Mouton <jerry@moutons.org> wrote:
> We have had a significant amount of discussion about
> Region goals in the past few years, and one of the
> strongest
> I believe has been the development of Nationals
> caliber drivers,
> and maintaining (or recapturing) our place as the
> winningest
> Region at Nationals.  That has been the thrust of
> every
> discussion I recall on "Mission Statement" and/or
> "Mission"
> Perhaps we should discuss again at the SC if there
> is any
> disagreement, but I am happy with this mission.
> 
> We were also faced with the Precedent of the St.
> Louis chapter funding
> their Nationals Rookies in this way.  This was the
> primary incitement for
> this vote, I believe.
> 
> There was significant discussion of inclusion of
> "ALL" SFR members,
> including chapters.  I heard this as explicitly
> included in the
> proposal passed.  My opinion is that because of
> geography and the
> number of competitors (and other factors ;-) SFR
> solo2 is split into
> several chapters; however, in the rulebook, we are
> all listed as
> SFR champions (when we win), and so encouraging
> entrants from
> all chapters helps achieve the SFR Solo2 mission --
> as above.
> 
> We voted to support entrants in the year 2000.  This
> year's situation
> monetarily (Thanks to John K.'s getting us mostly
> local sites this year)
> allows us to do this.  Next year may be completely
> different, and
> there was no vote to make this a permanent annual
> award.  I am not
> sure I can see how a "precedent" was set.  Will a
> year 2002 rookie
> sue SFR Solo2 to get their $90.00 refund?  Good
> luck.
> 
> Perhaps some future entrant will badmouth the
> Steering Committee.
> Oh NOOOO!  Horrors!  Something must be done!!!   You
> may notice
> that badmouthing the SC and anyone else who takes
> action is rampant,
> and human nature.  We'll just have to get over it.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> Jerry Mouton        mailto:jerry@moutons.org   
> Laissez les bons temps
> rouler!
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rich Urschel" <OSP13@attglobal.net>
> To: "Donald R McKenna"
> <donbarbmckenna@earthlink.net>
> Cc: "Bay_Area_Autocross_List"
> <ba-autox@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 8:54 PM
> Subject: Re: SFR First Time Nationals entrants --
> SFR will refund
> yourentrance fee
> 
> 
> > Donald R McKenna wrote:
> >
> > > For those who weren't at the 8-22 SC meeting, as
> I recall, the vote had
> no
> > > negative votes but included, three abstensions.
> Guess who one of them
> was.
> >
> > Since you brought it up, I was. I do that a lot
> simply
> > because I don't like the way proposals come out of
> > the blue, are followed by a brief discussion, and
> then
> > are immediately voted on. I like to think about
> and
> > consider precedent setting action. In this case I
> would
> > have liked to have at least considered
> alternatives
> > that might have provided more immediate bang for
> > the buck. If you're reading something else into
> > abstentions, please stop.
> >
> > Once the precedent was set, I did vote in favor of
> setting
> > money aside to do the same next year, as did one
> of the
> > other two abstainers.
> >
> > As for the gentleman in question being divisive, I
> > recommend reading his questions a little more
> > carefully and not reading so much into them.  It
> > was a financial responsibility/monetary question
> > which I am a bit sensitive to right now as I am
> > involved in trying to close a budget gap about
> > 200 times larger than the site fund.
> >
> > We voted for the first good idea that came along
> > because we currently have a considerable surplus.
> > What about previous ideas we've tabled because we
> > weren't sure we would be able to afford them? How
> > about a discussion of what our objectives are and
> > how best to attain them?
> >
> > BTW, who decided the members of the Chapters
> > qualify? I'm not opposed to it, but I remember no
> > committee discussion of the point. And maybe we
> > should have discussed it with the Chapter boards
> first?
> > Does 100 pounds ring a bell?
> >
> > Rich Urschel
> >
> > Ps. Could we have a little less public character
> > impugnment and a little more discussion, please?
> >
> >
> >
> 


=====
Craig Boyle

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