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Subject: Re: Site Map
From: "Phil Esra" <philesra@hotmail.com>
Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:47:06 PDT
Well, it's about time Bay Area course design caught up with the times! Very 
impressive advance in the field. A paradigm shift, even. :)

So, all this 3com talk has me wondering: what the hell is that big ridge? 
Does anybody have the faintest idea?

Phil


>From: Keith Hearn <khearn@Legato.COM>
>To: Willis Pack <galbhome@home.com>
>CC: Bay_Area_Autocross_List <ba-autox@autox.team.net>, 
>khearn@mail.legato.com
>Subject: Re: Site Map
>Date: Wed, 24 May 2000 16:31:36 -0700
>
>If there's a map that contains elevation data, the management at 3Com
>   would have it. John is probably the best person to enquire about it,
>   since he already has contact with them.
>
>I wouldn't be suprised if there is no map with elevation data for that
>   lot. Or if there is, it's probably hopelessly out of date. I have a 
>hunch
>   the contours of that lot have changed a bit since it was built. Making
>   an acurate contour map would require good survey equipment (not the
>   orienteering compass and distance measuring wheel I used for my map),
>   a couple of people who know how to use it, and quite a few hours of
>   their time.
>
>The major slope areas I noticed are:
>
>   * Along the northeast side of the hump, sloping down the the
>       northeast. There's very little up near the north end of the hump,
>       and it gets bigger as you move south.
>   * Starting at the hump, and heading west below pole I there's a section
>       of slope that goes down on the north side. It really starts
>       southwest of Pole I and curves around so the cross slope if going
>       west by the time you're southeast of pole I
>   * There's a similar, but larger slope that starts west of pole H and
>       curves around south of pole H and heads west. It's also lower
>       in the north.
>   * There is mild slope downward in all directions around the grassy 
>knoll.
>
>I'd be happy to include these on my map, I just couldn't figure out a
>   good way that would be clear and not clutter things up too much.
>
>The big problem doesn't really seem to be the gross elevation changes,
>   it's the little bumps that wouldn't really show up on a contour map.
>   Well, the long hump running from Pole H to the NNW is a significant
>   problem, but it's on my map.
>
>There were a couple of bumpy areas on the course that I'd never noticed
>   when I made the map, when I went out on Friday afternoon to preview
>   the course, or when we set it up on Saturday. They're the sort of
>   stuff that's not obvious on foot, but gets noticeable at driving
>   speed.
>
>One was in the northwest corner, before that straight across the north
>   end of the course. Once you've gotten beyond the north end of the
>   hump it's really fairly flat up there, but I noticed a lot of
>   bumpiness as I took that corner.
>
>At the next few Candlestick events, I'll probably spend a fair amount of
>   time prowling the lot (assuming the event chair ok's it, of
>   course) paying attention to where things seem to be problematic.
>
>   Keith Hearn
>   '99 Miata 10AE "Sexy Sadie" the Sapphire Shark
>   B-Stock
>   Milpitas, CA
>
>In message <392B53E1.A85ABE4@home.com>, Willis Pack writes:
> > A question for Keith Hearn, John Kelly and any others who may have
> > access to the data (most likely engineering drawings for drainage). If
> > we (someone) can come up with that information, I can combine it with a
> > site basemap (probably the one Keith has generated, format dependent)
> > and produce displays (maps, etc.) that reflect the shape of the lot,
> > slopes, ridges, etc. This is one component of the software developed by
> > my employer. Having this information in an easy to use form would enable
> > designers to highlight problems easily. Years ago, when I was much more
> > active, I almost had a countour map of the Pleasanton Fairgrounds in my
> > head, and it helped me avoid radical changes when setting up a course.
> >
> > In any case, if someone can get the elevation data, I'll put it
> > together. Who knows maybe the modifieds can come back?
> >
> > Skip Pack
> > galbhome@home.com (h)
> > 925 256-0358 (h)
> > skip@dgi.com (w)
> > 510 522-0700
>
>
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