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Re: Prepared Cantillever Tire Rule Vent

To: Bruce Haden <Bhaden@ucsd.edu>
Subject: Re: Prepared Cantillever Tire Rule Vent
From: Pat Kelly <lollipop@ricochet.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Feb 2001 08:41:46 -0800
        I think the cantilevered tire "solution/proposal" was created so that
car owners who have discovered the  cantilever tire is faster want a
replacement tire that can still have the same tire patch on the ground
if cantilevered tires are removed from the available list. No one wants
to go slower and since the introduction of the cantilevered tire, quite
a few drivers are going faster than they did on the narrower tires. Duh...
        I haven't read the entire proposal...my head started hurting...
        From past times a way of measuring tire patch was to drive the car
through a patch of flour or similar stuff and measure the impression
left by the tire. Tire pressures had to be what was run that day.
Perhaps simplistic, but it worked.
--Pat Kelly     



Bruce Haden wrote:
> 
> Last I heard, the tire companies had actually said they had NO PLANS
> to stop making cantilevers. Anyone have RELIABLE info to the contrary?
> With all the road racing and autocross people out there using them,
> I don't see why they would be any less profitable to make and sell than
> any other tire. After all, NONE of the tires we use are exactly high
> volume products. As to the proposal itself, I think it's lunacy to try
> to measure tire tread width. Whos gauge do you use? Where do you measure
> from on the side wall? (after a hard run in my 2100lb Pinto the "edge"
> of the tread is about an inch wide on each side of the tire and rolls up
> the sidewall). Much easier to measure a metal wheel. We've all done it.
> Keep the present wheel widths for cantilever tires and have a weight/width
> formula for the rest. For example, using straight wall NON-DOT tires
> as follows;
>                 car weight              wheel width
>                 1600lbs or less     7"
>                 1601-1850                 8"
>                 1851 and up               10"
> 
> The whole proposal, to me, seems to be a very covoluted answer to a problem
> that isn't there.  My .02...
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-autox@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-autox@autox.team.net]On
> Behalf Of Paul Foster
> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2001 7:09 AM
> To: Dick Rasmussen
> Cc: autox@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Prepared Cantillever Tire Rule Vent
> 
> Dick Rasmussen writes:
> 
> > Paul,
> >
> > FYI,
> >
> > I think you still missed the point. I think the DOT reference is for info
> > only. The proposal is not suggesting that DOT tires replace slicks for
> > Prepared. My understanding is that the current cantilever slicks which
> work
> > on SCCA mandated narrow rims (in many Prepared and Production classes) are
> > likely to be phased out of production. This means that slicks which have
> > similar width but need wider tires will be the only comparable tires
> > available.
> >
> > Therefore, if I read it correctly, the proposal was generated to get
> people
> > thinking about the transition from cantilever slicks on narrow rims to
> > similar width non cantilever slicks on the wider rims needed to support
> the

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