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Re: [Tigers] Front suspension

To: Michael Wood <mwood24020@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Front suspension
From: Theo Smit via Tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 15:43:53 -0600 (MDT)
Cc: Lance Beauchamp <blance598@gmail.com>, tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
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Thread-topic: Front suspension
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Hi Mike, 

In 2001 or so, I figured out that a crash in the way-past had twisted both 
upper shock towers (in the same direction) and the previous owner(s) had not 
corrected it. 
I cut off the upper towers and put in coilover mounts, along with new upper 
control arm mounts. As part of that operation I lowered the inboard upper 
control arm mounts an inch. I'm also using the Minx spindles, and that keeps 
the control arm angles in a reasonable range. 

I reversed the lower fulcrum pins, which shifts the lower control arm forward 
about a quarter inch, and increases the caster. As part of that, I added 
bolt-on braces off the rear face of the crossmember so that the rear end of the 
fulcrum pins are mounted in double shear. 
I'm currently also running a quicker Flaming River rack, and the steering 
effort (with 205/45-16's) is pretty reasonable. 

I've been pondering re-doing all of this, because what remains of the original 
crossmember is pretty beat up and had numerous stress cracks that I welded up 
when I last had it out of the car. 
A few years ago I got a hold of an Alpine crossmember so that I could re-start 
with something that hopefully had led an easier life. To address the issue of 
insufficient balljoint spacing and spindle/hub rigidity, I'd start with Wilwood 
or somebody else's Mustang hubs and spindles. 
But as with many things, I have not taken this past the ideas stage. Critiques 
and ideas are welcome. 

To the question of "why don't you just buy Dale's"... part of my enjoyment of 
my Tiger is the making of stuff. Sometimes that means the car sits longer than 
I'd like but that's life. 

Cheers, 
Theo 


From: "tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net> 
To: "Gary" <garywinblad@comcast.net>, "Lance Beauchamp" <blance598@gmail.com>, 
"tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net> 
Sent: Friday, October 1, 2021 10:37:07 AM 
Subject: Re: [Tigers] Front suspension 

<snip> 
Wonder if anyone has done it? 

Mike 


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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 10pt; color: #000000"><div>Hi Mike,</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"=
></div><div>In 2001 or so, I figured out that a crash in the way-past had t=
wisted both upper shock towers (in the same direction) and the previous own=
er(s) had not corrected it.</div><div> I cut off the upper towers and put i=
n coilover mounts, along with new upper control arm mounts. As part of that=
 operation I lowered the inboard upper control arm mounts an inch. I'm also=
 using the Minx spindles, and that keeps the control arm angles in a reason=
able range.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I reversed the lo=
wer fulcrum pins, which shifts the lower control arm forward about a quarte=
r inch, and increases the caster. As part of that, I added bolt-on braces o=
ff the rear face of the crossmember so that the rear end of the fulcrum pin=
s are mounted in double shear.</div><div>I'm currently also running a quick=
er Flaming River rack, and the steering effort (with 205/45-16's) is pretty=
 reasonable.&nbsp;</div><div><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>I've been =
pondering re-doing all of this, because what remains of the original crossm=
ember is pretty beat up and had numerous stress cracks that I welded up whe=
n I last had it out of the car.</div><div>A few years ago I got a hold of a=
n Alpine crossmember so that I could re-start with something that hopefully=
 had led an easier life. To address the issue of insufficient balljoint spa=
cing and spindle/hub rigidity, I'd start with Wilwood or somebody else's Mu=
stang hubs and spindles.</div><div>But as with many things, I have not take=
n this past the ideas stage. Critiques and ideas are welcome.</div><div><br=
 data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>To the question of "why don't you just buy=
 Dale's"... part of my enjoyment of my Tiger is the making of stuff. Someti=
mes that means the car sits longer than I'd like but that's life.</div><div=
><br data-mce-bogus=3D"1"></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Theo</div><div><br><=
/div><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEA=
DERS__"><b>From: </b>"tigers" &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>To: </b>"=
Gary" &lt;garywinblad@comcast.net&gt;, "Lance Beauchamp" &lt;blance598@gmai=
l.com&gt;, "tigers" &lt;tigers@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, O=
ctober 1, 2021 10:37:07 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Tigers] Front suspension=
<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;color:black"=
><div style=3D"font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-size:10p=
t;color:black">&lt;snip&gt;</div><div style=3D"font-family:'arial' , 'helve=
tica' , sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black">Wonder if anyone has done it=
?</div><div style=3D"font-family:'arial' , 'helvetica' , sans-serif;font-si=
ze:10pt;color:black"><br></div><div style=3D"font-family:'arial' , 'helveti=
ca' , sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:black">Mike</div></div><br></div></di=
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