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Hi MIke,
Respect goes both ways. You and many others have much more autocross and =
racing experience than I=E2=80=99ll ever accumulate and you all sharing =
your insights helps me figure out what it is I should be trying to do.
Thanks,
Theo
> On Oct 1, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Michael Wood <mwood24020@aol.com> wrote:
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> Love it! I have so much respect for you guys (like my mentor, Tom) who =
can take ideas and shape them in metal.=20
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> What I'd really like to see is someone build a tubular, double A-arm =
bolt in solution. I can do the math, but I sure as hell can't do the =
heavy lifting lol
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Theo Smit <tsmit@shaw.ca>
> To: Michael Wood <mwood24020@aol.com>
> Cc: Gary <garywinblad@comcast.net>; Lance Beauchamp =
<blance598@gmail.com>; tigers <tigers@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Fri, Oct 1, 2021 2:43 pm
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Front suspension
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> Hi Mike,
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> In 2001 or so, I figured out that a crash in the way-past had twisted =
both upper shock towers (in the same direction) and the previous =
owner(s) had not corrected it.
> I cut off the upper towers and put in coilover mounts, along with new =
upper control arm mounts. As part of that operation I lowered the =
inboard upper control arm mounts an inch. I'm also using the Minx =
spindles, and that keeps the control arm angles in a reasonable range.
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> I reversed the lower fulcrum pins, which shifts the lower control arm =
forward about a quarter inch, and increases the caster. As part of that, =
I added bolt-on braces off the rear face of the crossmember so that the =
rear end of the fulcrum pins are mounted in double shear.
> I'm currently also running a quicker Flaming River rack, and the =
steering effort (with 205/45-16's) is pretty reasonable.=20
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> I've been pondering re-doing all of this, because what remains of the =
original crossmember is pretty beat up and had numerous stress cracks =
that I welded up when I last had it out of the car.
> A few years ago I got a hold of an Alpine crossmember so that I could =
re-start with something that hopefully had led an easier life. To =
address the issue of insufficient balljoint spacing and spindle/hub =
rigidity, I'd start with Wilwood or somebody else's Mustang hubs and =
spindles.
> But as with many things, I have not taken this past the ideas stage. =
Critiques and ideas are welcome.
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> To the question of "why don't you just buy Dale's"... part of my =
enjoyment of my Tiger is the making of stuff. Sometimes that means the =
car sits longer than I'd like but that's life.
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> Cheers,
> Theo
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> From: "tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net>
> To: "Gary" <garywinblad@comcast.net>, "Lance Beauchamp" =
<blance598@gmail.com>, "tigers" <tigers@autox.team.net>
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> Sent: Friday, October 1, 2021 10:37:07 AM
> Subject: Re: [Tigers] Front suspension
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> <snip>
> Wonder if anyone has done it?
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> Mike
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">Hi =
MIke,<div class=3D"">Respect goes both ways. You and many others have =
much more autocross and racing experience than I=E2=80=99ll ever =
accumulate and you all sharing your insights helps me figure out what it =
is I should be trying to do.<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">Thanks,</div><div class=3D"">Theo<br class=3D""><div><br =
class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Oct =
1, 2021, at 6:30 PM, Michael Wood <<a =
href=3D"mailto:mwood24020@aol.com"; class=3D"">mwood24020@aol.com</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-size: 10pt; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Love it! I have so much respect for you =
guys (like my mentor, Tom) who can take ideas and shape them in =
metal. </div><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, =
sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">What I'd really like to see is someone build a tubular, =
double A-arm bolt in solution. I can do the math, but I sure as hell =
can't do the heavy lifting lol<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br =
class=3D"">-----Original Message-----<br class=3D"">From: Theo Smit =
<<a href=3D"mailto:tsmit@shaw.ca"; class=3D"">tsmit@shaw.ca</a>><br =
class=3D"">To: Michael Wood <<a href=3D"mailto:mwood24020@aol.com"; =
class=3D"">mwood24020@aol.com</a>><br class=3D"">Cc: Gary <<a =
href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net"; =
class=3D"">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>>; Lance Beauchamp <<a =
href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">blance598@gmail.com</a>>; tigers <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br class=3D"">Sent: Fri, Oct 1, =
2021 2:43 pm<br class=3D"">Subject: Re: [Tigers] Front suspension<br =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div id=3D"yiv5373424094" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><div class=3D"">Hi Mike,</div><div =
class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">In 2001 =
or so, I figured out that a crash in the way-past had twisted both upper =
shock towers (in the same direction) and the previous owner(s) had not =
corrected it.</div><div class=3D""> I cut off the upper towers and put =
in coilover mounts, along with new upper control arm mounts. As part of =
that operation I lowered the inboard upper control arm mounts an inch. =
I'm also using the Minx spindles, and that keeps the control arm angles =
in a reasonable range.</div><div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I reversed the lower fulcrum pins, =
which shifts the lower control arm forward about a quarter inch, and =
increases the caster. As part of that, I added bolt-on braces off the =
rear face of the crossmember so that the rear end of the fulcrum pins =
are mounted in double shear.</div><div class=3D"">I'm currently also =
running a quicker Flaming River rack, and the steering effort (with =
205/45-16's) is pretty reasonable. </div><div class=3D""><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">I've been pondering =
re-doing all of this, because what remains of the original crossmember =
is pretty beat up and had numerous stress cracks that I welded up when I =
last had it out of the car.</div><div class=3D"">A few years ago I got a =
hold of an Alpine crossmember so that I could re-start with something =
that hopefully had led an easier life. To address the issue of =
insufficient balljoint spacing and spindle/hub rigidity, I'd start with =
Wilwood or somebody else's Mustang hubs and spindles.</div><div =
class=3D"">But as with many things, I have not taken this past the ideas =
stage. Critiques and ideas are welcome.</div><div class=3D""><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">To the question of "why =
don't you just buy Dale's"... part of my enjoyment of my Tiger is the =
making of stuff. Sometimes that means the car sits longer than I'd like =
but that's life.</div><div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div =
class=3D"">Theo</div><div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""></div><hr id=3D"yiv5373424094zwchr" class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">From: </b>"tigers" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">To: </b>"Gary" <<a href=3D"mailto:garywinblad@comcast.net"; =
class=3D"">garywinblad@comcast.net</a>>, "Lance Beauchamp" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:blance598@gmail.com"; =
class=3D"">blance598@gmail.com</a>>, "tigers" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:tigers@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">tigers@autox.team.net</a>><div =
class=3D"yiv5373424094yqt7580696325" id=3D"yiv5373424094yqtfd00025"><br =
clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent: </b>Friday, October 1, =
2021 10:37:07 AM<br clear=3D"none" class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject: =
</b>Re: [Tigers] Front suspension<br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""></div></div><div class=3D"yiv5373424094yqt7580696325" =
id=3D"yiv5373424094yqtfd70888"><div class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"font-size: 10pt; =
font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif;" class=3D""><div =
style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D""><snip></div><div style=3D"font-family: arial, =
helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" class=3D"">Wonder if anyone has =
done it?</div><div style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; =
font-size: 10pt;" class=3D""><br clear=3D"none" class=3D""></div><div =
style=3D"font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt;" =
class=3D"">Mike</div></div><br clear=3D"none" =
class=3D""></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><b=
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