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Re: enough is not enough, or is it?

To: "Lew Palmer" <lpalmer@mn.mediaone.net>, "'Pip Bucknell'" <mgwizard@caloundra.net>, <Kellmg@aol.com>
Subject: Re: enough is not enough, or is it?
From: "Ray" <spook01@home.com>
Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 14:31:04 -0600
Cc: "'MMM List UK'" <mg-mmm@autox.team.net>
References: <002d01c19864$17c23680$6a00a8c0@roundabout.com>
Reply-to: "Ray" <spook01@home.com>
Sender: owner-mg-mmm@autox.team.net
A-HAH!!  Just as I thought-dozens of "Fakes"!!!!!!!!!
Bring out the guillotines!!  These cars were tampered with by other artists!
Best,
Ray (laughing!)
>
>
> PB Chassis No           PB eng no               Converted from
>
> PB 0251                 500A199PB       PA 2068
> PB 0252 - 0588          501-853A199PB   first time production
> PB 0589 - 613 incl      1012-1036AP*    PA's 2188, 2196, 2203,2186,
> 2149,     2148, 2039, 2176,
>                                         2163, 2199, 2184, 2193, 2214,
> 2137,     1960, 2179,
>                                         2166, 2170, 2180, 2235, 2232,
> 2243,     2238, 2233, & 2229
>                                         in that order.
> PB 0614 - 0711          848-938A199PB   first time production
>
> PB 0712                 2/538A*         PA 2146
>
> PB 0713 - 0775          939-1000A199PB  first time production
>
> *Without going up to Abingdon I'm not sure whether these numbers were
> all stamped on their blocks as ????A199PB or are as they appear here
> which is what is recorded in the chassis and build book summaries which
> I keep here for reference.  They may appear in my summary records like
> this simply because there was no room in the column space to put "APB"
> so the clerical
> folk left out the "PB" or the "B".   I suspect that's the explanation
> since
> PB 0283, which originally had engine number 538A199PB, lost that engine
> on 25/10/35.  If it was re-used, then it would probably have been
> numbered 2/538A199PB, or 2/538APB for short.  Thus "1012-1036AP" above
> should probably read "1012-1036A199PB" and "2/538A" should read
> "2/538A199PB".
>
> So Terry's numbers were correct, a total of 27 PA's were converted to
> PB's.
>
> So far as records show, all the converted cars used both the chassis and
> engines from their respective PA parents except PB 0712.   Its parent PA
> had engine number 2422AP originally but lost that and had a strange
> replacement numbered EX5978/2 at some point before the chassis was
> converted.  Its PB engine almost certainly came from PB 0283 as
> mentioned above.

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