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Sorry Hank but I think you have that wrong.
In and SU carb,and for that matter almost every other type of carburettor,
fuel DOES NOT pump out through the jet.
The fuel level, as mentioned previously, is controlled by the float chamber
float valve to never actually be above the top of the jet. It is only the
flow of air across the carburettor "bridge", where the jet is positioned,
that draws fuel up through the jet to be atomized into the airflow and into
the inlet manifold.
This is all related to Bernoulli's principle
<https://www.google.com/search?client=3Dfirefox-b-d&q=3DBernoulli%27s+princ=
iple>
which is the basis upon which all carburettors work.
If fuel is coming out of the jet when the engine is not running then the
mechanism controlling the float level is not operating correctly.
M
On Mon, Dec 23, 2024 at 1:37=E2=80=AFPM Hank Leach via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Ah! A rebel in the crowd. I looked at a bunch of photos of 1953 100
> engines on the web. Many are configured as mine with NO FLOAT BOWL DRAIN
> TUBES. The *later *engine setups have drain tubes in the lid. This
> includes the cars using H6 carbs (Lemans). Also, on these early designs
> there is a different carb adaptor. Part 1B1672 which has a lower drain i=
n
> the casing up to engine # 139915 (my engine 139563). Of course Moss, etc.
> only sell the later style products. but some books show the solid float
> lids and some show vented lids and some show a lid with a drain tube (air
> vent).
>
> So, in theory the way the early system works; fuel is inlet from the floa=
t
> chamber and enters the jet thru a hole in the tube positioned between the
> two gland washers which are to keep the fuel intact. when the choke is
> pulled that jet hole is lowered to send in, as the British say..."a neat
> petrol supply" to start the car.
> Now, if you turn on the key, fuel pumps in and is moved thru the jet into
> the throttle area and into the manifold. Unless the engine is now turning
> and suction from the piston is active, the fuel will run haplessly in the
> intake manifold and out the drain tube to the ground. So the important
> procedure in these early systems is turn the key and crank the engine
> immediately or it will overflow fuel down the drain tube. I'm here
> testing the operation of the carburetors in a static mode-its not going t=
o
> do anything but spew fuel to the ground. Right?
>
> The later design using a float bowl vent tube also send fuel into the
> manifold but without a drain tube the fuel will go into the engine, as th=
e
> Moss PDF described, diluting the oil and washing the cylinders. Sounds li=
ke
> the best method of starting up is to crank the engine as soon as you hear
> the fuel pump click...I typically have waited until the pump stopped (flo=
at
> bowls full) before cranking. Live and learn?Hank
>
>
> --------------------
>
> From: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" <ynotink@msn.com>
> To: "Hank Leach via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>, "Bob Haskell" <
> rchaskell@earthlink.net>, "richard mayor" <boyracer466@gmail.com>, <
> gradea1@charter.net>
> Sent: December 22, 2024 at 9:29 PM PST
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] overflowing fuel into intake drain tube
>
> I=E2=80=99d like to be able to answer that, but I have to confess I=E2=80=
=99ve modified
> the induction system on mine (I know, I=E2=80=99m going to Hell) and I=E2=
=80=99m a little
> fuzzy on the details. If memory serves (a doubtful premise) the float bow=
ls
> originally had an open vent arrangement on the top with no drain tubes. T=
he
> car was built up from several dozen boxes of parts, so that may not have
> been correct. About 20 years ago I built a pair of H6s and installed thos=
e
> with drain tubes. The car is a bitsa anyway so originality is secondary, =
or
> maybe tertiary=E2=80=A6
>
> Bill Lawrence
> BN1 554
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Hank Leach
> via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 23, 2024 1:59 AM
> *To:* Bob Haskell <rchaskell@earthlink.net>; richard mayor <
> boyracer466@gmail.com>
> *Cc:* healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] overflowing fuel into intake drain tube
>
> Thanks Bob-yes the Moss site confirms they have alternate nitrile floats
> and about $20 each. Looking at the diagram there is a drawing of the floa=
t
> chamber overflow AUC1866 (451-250) $24.99 each. I do not have these
> overflows on my float bowls (as Richard Mayor mentioned their location)
> Instead the early cars have silver vent caps and a red washer which allow=
s
> air out and those two intake manifold copper drain pipes at the bottom of
> the carb intakes. There is a PDF note on that part which reads:
>
> "These pipes are open to the atmosphere, for two reasons: first (and most
> important) they allow the fuel coming into the float bowl to displace the
> air in there so the fuel can reach its correct level in a timely manner.
> Second, if the float valve (needle-and-seat) should stick open (as they d=
o
> when a bit of grit is trapped on the mating surfaces) the fuel will be
> piped out and down =E2=80=93 away from the engine. If the *fuel could not=
escape
> through the overflow pipe, it would pour down the carburetor throat into
> the engine*. With that much liquid gasoline, not all of it will vaporize
> before the spark plug fires. The fuel that does vaporize will make the
> mixture so rich (as if the choke were engaged) the car will belch black
> smoke out the tailpipe. The engine will eventually flood and die."
>
> The point here is that not having those overflows on the float bowls; the
> overflow is actually after the throttle plates on my car. I wonder how Bi=
ll
> Lawrence's early car is configured and if he has float bowl overflows or
> intake overflows? Is it possible that this is a clue to my delima? Trappe=
d
> air? Hank
> --------------------
>
> From: "Bob Haskell" <rchaskell@earthlink.net>
> To: <gradea1@charter.net>, "richard mayor" <boyracer466@gmail.com>
> Cc: "healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: December 22, 2024 at 4:28 PM PST
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] overflowing fuel into intake drain tube
>
> Hank,
>
> I think the newest floats are made from nitrile rubber - nitrophyl, not
> plastic. Supposedly unsinkable.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Bob Haskell
> Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar
>
> On 12/22/24 17:49, Hank Leach via Healeys wrote:
>
> I actually cannot figure where all the fuel is coming from. In static
> mode-key off and float bowls at proper level-with dashpot and piston
> removed, no fuel is apparent (as Michael says about 1/8" below jet or as
> you say equal to float setting). However, with key on and carbs together
> it's a different story-fuel is flowing steadily. The suggestion that was
> made that we really need to have clear plastic float bowls has merit. I
> cannot tell if the brass float is pushing hard enough to shut off the peg
> on the valve. When held shut by hand its positive.
>
> If the float is "heavy", then it will not effect enough pressure on the
> peg to stop the flow. This is why someone suggested plastic floats instea=
d
> of brass. Fuel is the shut off mechanism. I have swapped float and needle
> valves from front to rear carb in hopes that the front one will now start
> leaking. That may be a clue to the issue. Waiting for a dry day (next
> year?) to test that theory.
> --------------------
>
> From: "richard mayor" <boyracer466@gmail.com> <boyracer466@gmail.com>
> To: "Leach Hank" <gradea1@charter.net> <gradea1@charter.net>
> Cc: "healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: December 22, 2024 at 2:23 PM PST
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] overflowing fuel into intake drain tube
> Hank,
>
> If I read your post correctly, the fuel is coming out of the jet in the
> carburetor into the intake manifold and then out the drain tube. Not fro=
m
> the overflow tube on the float chamber. I=E2=80=99ll proceed with this as=
sumption.
>
> The level of fuel at the jet is the same level as that in the float
> chamber. That is the way these SU carbs are designed. That is why float
> level is so important. If fuel is flowing out of the jet before the
> needle valve shuts off the fuel supply at the float chamber then your flo=
at
> level is set too high. You need to close the float needle valve with the
> float at a lower level. Instead of using 7/16th as a guide, try 1/2=E2=80=
=9D and
> see if that stops the flow. But then you said you tried different
> settings.
>
> Is there an obstruction that is preventing the float from rising all the
> way to the top to close the needle valve? Try a different float. Polish
> the post. Is there any wear in the fork or pivot in the casting that is
> not allowing the needle to move feely into it=E2=80=99s seat. I think th=
at=E2=80=99s where
> the problem is.
>
> Richard Mayor
> boyracer466@gmail.com
>
>
> On Dec 22, 2024, at 12:28=E2=80=AFPM, Hank Leach via Healeys
> <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> I have chased the cause of too much fuel exiting from the rear carbureto=
r
> overflow of my 100 for years. These are H4 carbs-very simple design, but
> must be done correctly to perform. So I find that the jet is out of cente=
r
> and piston is sticking up above the flat about 1/8"-that would allow fuel
> to run into throttle area and out overflow drain tube.
>
> No way to center jet on car. Remove carburetor-a 4 hour job- and clean an=
d
> replace gaskets and gland washers-yes cork- and reassemble and center
> jet...now works perfect. Re mount carburetor and connect fuel lines-anoth=
er
> 4 hour job. Both carb pistons drop with a clunk at the same time. Turn =
on
> key- fuel pump clicking-overflow again leaking.
>
> I have reset the floats and float needles (brass) were replaced many
> times-that's not the issue. No fuel in float bodies-they are not leaking.
> I just cant believe its too much fuel pressure but then again, this is a
> British Car.
> Float is brass but when shaked it is dry. I filled the float lid with car=
b
> cleaner while holding needle valve closed and no leaking. That's two plac=
es
> checked (these are unfortunately "new" parts) Now the next leak could be
> between the needle and jet if not closed off-also new parts-jet .090.
> Needles are QW as specified but i also have a set of ATs which are lean
> that I am tempted to try. Actually both needles are about the same at top
> .089, but ATs are a bit fatter at mid range. Problem is all testing stink=
s
> up the garage and creates an explosive atmosphere so best done outside in
> the rain.
>
> I know some folks like Grosse Jets-but I don't-- I prefer the simple bras=
s
> ones with viton tips which do work if pressure is applied by forked
> leg-also new, and set to 7/16" or MORE. With covers off, both bowls are
> equally about 1/2 filled. Fuel pressure is a thought as it can push by th=
e
> stops but its the correct pump and when key on clicks fast then slows to =
a
> stop... but then tick, tick which it should not do! Fuel is going out an=
d
> down the drain tube to my swimming pool drip pan. Im tempted to measure t=
he
> top of the needles to see if they are really at .089. Can't measure the n=
ew
> jet but its stamped "9" Maybe stick in a number drill to see if its round=
?
> Mind you, these carbs have about 125 miles total on them. As far as I kno=
w
> these are "genuine SU" parts-not Moss India knockoffs.
>
> I really thought that the centering was the issue and took the carb off
> for that reason which cured the drop-each drops equally with thud. That's
> not the problem. Any suggestions? Someone says use plastic floats...Hank
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sa=
ns-serif;font-size:small">Sorry Hank but I think you have that wrong.</div>=
<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-siz=
e:small">In and SU carb,and for that matter almost every other type of carb=
urettor, fuel DOES NOT pump out through the jet. <br></div><div class=3D"gm=
ail_default" style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">The fue=
l level, as mentioned previously, is controlled by the float chamber float =
valve to never actually be above the top of the jet. It is only the flow of=
air across the carburettor "bridge", where the jet is positioned=
, that draws fuel up through the jet to be atomized into the airflow and in=
to the inlet manifold. <br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">This is all related to <a href=3D=
"https://www.google.com/search?client=3Dfirefox-b-d&q=3DBernoulli%27s+p=
rinciple">Bernoulli's principle</a> which is the basis upon which all c=
arburettors work.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:ar=
ial,sans-serif;font-size:small">If fuel is coming out of the jet when the e=
ngine is not running then the mechanism controlling the float level is not =
operating correctly.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family=
:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:small">M<br></div></div><br>=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote gmail_quote_container"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"=
gmail_attr">On Mon, Dec 23, 2024 at 1:37=E2=80=AFPM Hank Leach via Healeys =
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>>=
; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px=
0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Ah=
! A rebel in the crowd. I looked at a bunch of photos of 1953 100 engines o=
n the web.=C2=A0 Many are configured as mine with NO FLOAT BOWL DRAIN TUBES=
.=C2=A0 The <em>later </em>engine setups have drain tubes in the lid. This =
includes the cars using H6 carbs (Lemans).=C2=A0 Also, on these early desig=
ns there is a different carb adaptor. Part 1B1672=C2=A0 which has a lower d=
rain in the casing<span style=3D"text-decoration:underline"> up to engine #=
139915</span> (my engine 139563). Of course Moss, etc. only sell the later=
style products. but some books show the solid float lids and some show ven=
ted lids and some show a lid with a drain tube (air vent).</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>So, in theory the way the early system works; fuel is inlet from the f=
loat chamber and enters the jet thru a hole in the tube positioned between =
the two gland washers which are to keep the fuel intact. when the choke is =
pulled that jet hole=C2=A0 is lowered to send in, as the British say...&quo=
t;a neat petrol supply" to start the car.</div>
<div>Now, if you turn on the key, fuel pumps in and is moved thru the jet i=
nto the throttle area and into the manifold. <span style=3D"text-decoration=
:underline">Unless the engine is now turning</span> and suction from the pi=
ston is active, the fuel will run haplessly in the intake manifold and out =
the drain tube to the ground. So the important procedure in these early sys=
tems is turn the key and crank the engine <span style=3D"text-decoration:un=
derline">immediately</span> or it will overflow fuel down the drain tube.=
=C2=A0 I'm here testing the operation of the carburetors in a static mo=
de-its not going to do anything but spew fuel to the ground. Right?</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The later design using a float bowl vent tube also send fuel into the =
manifold but without a drain tube the fuel will go into the engine, as the =
Moss PDF described, diluting the oil and washing the cylinders. Sounds like=
the best method of starting up is to crank the engine as soon as you hear =
the fuel pump click...I typically have waited until the pump stopped (float=
bowls full) before cranking. Live and learn?Hank</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div><br>-------------------- <br><br>From: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" =
<<a href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com"; target=3D"_blank">ynotink@msn.com</a=
>> <br>To: "Hank Leach via Healeys" <<a href=3D"mailto:heal=
eys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>>, "=
;Bob Haskell" <<a href=3D"mailto:rchaskell@earthlink.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">rchaskell@earthlink.net</a>>, "richard mayor" <<a =
href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmail.c=
om</a>>, <<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net"; target=3D"_blank">gr=
adea1@charter.net</a>> <br>Sent: December 22, 2024 at 9:29 PM PST <br>Su=
bject: Re: [Healeys] overflowing fuel into intake drain tube </div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;backgroun=
d-color:transparent">=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;backgroun=
d-color:transparent">I=E2=80=99d like to be able to answer that, but I have=
to confess I=E2=80=99ve modified the induction system on mine (I know, I=
=E2=80=99m going to Hell) and I=E2=80=99m a little fuzzy on the details. If=
memory serves (a doubtful premise) the float bowls originally had an open =
vent arrangement on the top with no drain tubes. The car was built up from =
several dozen boxes of parts, so that may not have been correct. About 20 y=
ears ago I built a pair of H6s and installed those with drain tubes. The ca=
r is a bitsa anyway so originality is secondary, or maybe tertiary=E2=80=A6=
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;backgroun=
d-color:transparent">=C2=A0</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;backgroun=
d-color:transparent">Bill Lawrence</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:inherit;font-size:inherit;color:inherit;backgroun=
d-color:transparent">BN1 554</div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%">
<div id=3D"m_-6618822986480632876divRplyFwdMsg"><strong>From:</strong> Heal=
eys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"=
>healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> on behalf of Hank Leach via Healeys=
<<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@au=
tox.team.net</a>><br><strong>Sent:</strong> Monday, December 23, 2024 1:=
59 AM<br><strong>To:</strong> Bob Haskell <<a href=3D"mailto:rchaskell@e=
arthlink.net" target=3D"_blank">rchaskell@earthlink.net</a>>; richard ma=
yor <<a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">boyracer=
466@gmail.com</a>><br><strong>Cc:</strong> healeys <<a href=3D"mailto=
:healeys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>><b=
r><strong>Subject:</strong> Re: [Healeys] overflowing fuel into intake drai=
n tube
<div>=C2=A0</div>
</div>
<div>
<div>Thanks Bob-yes the Moss site confirms they have alternate nitrile floa=
ts and about $20 each. Looking at the diagram there is a drawing of the flo=
at chamber overflow AUC1866 (451-250) $24.99 each.=C2=A0 I do not have thes=
e overflows on my float bowls (as Richard Mayor mentioned their location) I=
nstead the early cars have silver vent caps and a red washer which allows a=
ir out and those two intake manifold copper drain pipes at the bottom of th=
e carb intakes. There is a PDF note on that part which reads:</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>"These pipes are open to the atmosphere, for two reasons: first (=
and most important) they allow the fuel coming into the float bowl to displ=
ace the air in there so the fuel can reach its correct level in a timely ma=
nner. Second, if the float valve (needle-and-seat) should stick open (as th=
ey do when a bit of grit is trapped on the mating surfaces) the fuel will b=
e piped out and down =E2=80=93 away from the engine. If the <strong>fuel co=
uld not escape through the overflow pipe, it would pour down the carburetor=
throat into the engine</strong>. With that much liquid gasoline, not all o=
f it will vaporize before the spark plug fires. The fuel that does vaporize=
will make the mixture so rich (as if the choke were engaged) the car will =
belch black smoke out the tailpipe. The engine will eventually flood and di=
e."</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The point here is that not having those overflows on the float bowls; =
the overflow is actually after the throttle plates on my car. I wonder how =
Bill Lawrence's early car is configured and if he has float bowl overfl=
ows or intake overflows? Is it possible that this is a clue to my delima? T=
rapped air? Hank</div>
<div>--------------------=C2=A0<br><br>From: "Bob Haskell" <<a=
href=3D"mailto:rchaskell@earthlink.net"; target=3D"_blank">rchaskell@earthl=
ink.net</a>> <br>To: <<a href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net"; target=
=3D"_blank">gradea1@charter.net</a>>, "richard mayor" <<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">boyracer466@gmail.co=
m</a>> <br>Cc: "healeys" <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.t=
eam.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>> <br>Sent: Decembe=
r 22, 2024 at 4:28 PM PST <br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] overflowing fuel into =
intake drain tube</div>
<p>Hank,</p>
<p>I think the newest floats are made from nitrile rubber - nitrophyl, not =
plastic.=C2=A0 Supposedly unsinkable.</p>
<p>Cheers,</p>
<pre>Bob Haskell
Austin-Healey 3000 roadster registrar</pre>
<div>On 12/22/24 17:49, Hank Leach via Healeys wrote:</div>
<blockquote>
<div>I actually cannot figure where all the fuel is coming from. In static =
mode-key off and float bowls at proper level-with dashpot and piston remove=
d, no fuel is apparent (as Michael says about 1/8" below jet or as you=
say equal to float setting). However, with key on and carbs together it=
9;s a different story-fuel is flowing steadily. The suggestion that was mad=
e that we really need to have clear plastic float bowls has merit. I cannot=
tell if the brass float is pushing hard enough to shut off the peg on the =
valve. When held shut by hand its positive.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>If the float is "heavy", then it will not effect enough pres=
sure on the peg to stop the flow. This is why someone suggested plastic flo=
ats instead of brass. Fuel is the shut off mechanism. I have swapped float =
and needle valves from front to rear carb in hopes that the front one will =
now start leaking. That may be a clue to the issue. Waiting for a dry day (=
next year?) to test that theory.<br>-------------------- <br><br>From: &quo=
t;richard mayor" <a href=3D"mailto:boyracer466@gmail.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank"> <boyracer466@gmail.com></a> <br>To: "Leach Hank" <a =
href=3D"mailto:gradea1@charter.net"; target=3D"_blank"> <gradea1@charter.=
net></a> <br>Cc: "healeys" <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.tea=
m.net" target=3D"_blank"> <healeys@autox.team.net></a> <br>Sent: Dece=
mber 22, 2024 at 2:23 PM PST <br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] overflowing fuel in=
to intake drain tube <br>Hank,</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>If I read your post correctly, the fuel is coming out of the jet in th=
e carburetor into the intake manifold and then out the drain tube.=C2=A0 No=
t from the overflow tube on the float chamber. I=E2=80=99ll proceed with th=
is assumption.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>The level of fuel at the jet is the same level as that in the float ch=
amber. That is the way these SU carbs are designed. That is why float level=
is so important.=C2=A0 If fuel is flowing out of =C2=A0the jet before the =
needle valve shuts off the fuel supply at the float chamber then your float=
level is set too high.=C2=A0 You need to close the float needle valve with=
the float at a lower level. Instead of using 7/16th as a guide, try 1/2=E2=
=80=9D and see if that stops the flow.=C2=A0 But then you said you tried di=
fferent settings.=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>Is there an obstruction that is preventing the float from rising all t=
he way to the top to close the needle valve?=C2=A0 Try a different float. P=
olish the post.=C2=A0 Is there any wear in the fork or pivot in the casting=
that is not allowing the needle to move feely into it=E2=80=99s seat.=C2=
=A0 I think that=E2=80=99s where the problem is.=C2=A0</div>
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<div>On Dec 22, 2024, at 12:28=E2=80=AFPM, Hank Leach via Healeys <a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank"> <healeys@autox.tea=
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<div>
<div>=C2=A0I have chased the cause of too much fuel exiting from the rear c=
arburetor overflow of my 100 for years. These are H4 carbs-very simple desi=
gn, but must be done correctly to perform. So I find that the jet is out of=
center and piston is sticking up above the flat about 1/8"-that would=
allow fuel to run into throttle area and out overflow drain tube.=C2=A0
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>No way to center jet on car. Remove carburetor-a 4 hour job- and clean=
and replace gaskets and gland washers-yes cork- and reassemble and center =
jet...now works perfect. Re mount carburetor and connect fuel lines-another=
4 hour job.=C2=A0 Both carb pistons drop with a clunk at the same time.=C2=
=A0 Turn on key- fuel pump clicking-overflow again leaking.=C2=A0</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>I have reset the floats and float needles (brass) were replaced many t=
imes-that's not the issue. No fuel in float bodies-they are not leaking=
.=C2=A0 I just cant believe its too much fuel pressure but then again, this=
is a British Car.=C2=A0</div>
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<div>Float is brass but when shaked it is dry. I filled the float lid with =
carb cleaner while holding needle valve closed and no leaking. That's t=
wo places checked (these are unfortunately "new" parts) Now the n=
ext leak could be between the needle and jet if not closed off-also new par=
ts-jet .090. Needles are QW as specified but i also have a set of ATs which=
are lean that I am tempted to try. Actually both needles are about the sam=
e at top .089, but ATs are a bit fatter at mid range. Problem is all testin=
g stinks up the garage and creates an explosive atmosphere so best done out=
side in the rain.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>I know some folks like Grosse Jets-but I don't-- I prefer the simp=
le brass ones with viton tips which do work if pressure is applied by forke=
d leg-also new, and set to 7/16" or MORE. With covers off, both bowls =
are equally about 1/2 filled. Fuel pressure is a thought as it can push by =
the stops but its the correct pump and when key on clicks fast then slows t=
o a stop... but then tick, tick which it should not do!=C2=A0 Fuel is going=
out and down the drain tube to my swimming pool drip pan. Im tempted to me=
asure the top of the needles to see if they are really at .089. Can't m=
easure the new jet but its stamped "9" Maybe stick in a number dr=
ill to see if its round? Mind you, these carbs have about 125 miles total o=
n them. As far as I know these are "genuine SU" parts-not Moss In=
dia knockoffs.</div>
<div>=C2=A0</div>
<div>I really thought that the centering was the issue and took the carb of=
f for that reason which cured the drop-each drops equally with thud. That&#=
39;s not the problem. Any suggestions? Someone says use plastic floats...Ha=
nk</div>
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