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Isn=E2=80=99t there a braided earth strap lurking down there somewhere?=20
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With regard to a new type starter, WOSP in my case, it really does spin =
the engine faster than the original. Much faster. The WOSP=E2=80=99s =
noise lacks the old-fashioned=20
gravitas(?) of the Lucas and, to be frank, sounds a bit like a Renault =
bread van! Or whatever..
And, the BJ8s, with their 2=E2=80=9D SUs, don=E2=80=99t they need a nice =
fast spin to get the mixture in?
Simon
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: 11 December 2020 16:26
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacing the starter with a gear reduction =
starter
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My BN2 became hard to start a while ago. I installed new batteries and =
had the starter rebuilt, and I painted it. When I'd initially installed =
the starter I'd used grade 8 bolts, grade 8 nuts and grade 8 split =
washers and flat washers under the nuts. I took the starter to a local =
shop, who said the starter checked-out fine. When I re-installed it I =
omitted the flat-washers, and the starter worked! Apparently, there was =
enough paint on the starter and the engine paint to prevent good =
conduction; the split washers cut through the paint enough to allow =
conductivity. I don't know if grade 8 hardware is less conductive than =
grade 5, but since the starter is grounded through the engine plate you =
need a good connection there (IOW, scrape the paint off).
On 12/10/2020 8:36 PM, banjojohn via Healeys wrote:
I expect you've already checked other possible reasons for hard starting =
issues, but I had a problem a few years ago that turned out to be a poor =
connection at a battery terminal resulting in high resistance. Just a =
thought before you start replacing things is to check connections and =
grounds.
John O'Brien
'61 bugeye (Lucy)
'65 BJ8 (Madelyn)
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Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S10e.
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-------- Original message --------
From: Michael Oritt via Healeys =
m.net>=20
Date: 12/10/20 9:00 PM (GMT-06:00)=20
<healeys@autox.team.net>=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacing the starter with a gear reduction =
starter=20
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Bob--
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As said you can install the starter from under the car. Though the =
adapter plates and motor units are indexable to fit most all =
applications usually there is only one position that will fit on each =
car so you will probably have to play with things a bit before you find =
the correct set-up.
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Best--Michael Oritt
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On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 2:56 PM Bob Begani <rfbegani@gmail.com =
You may remember I mentioned my BJ8 would not start after a run because =
of overheating. the engine did turn over with a wrench, and 50 amp on =
the starter made it only moan. So I will replace the starter. Many of =
you have recommended a gear reduction starter which is available from =
Moss and others. What source do you recomend.? Also, I see it shows an =
additional bulge which must be the gears. Will it fit into my BJ8 =
engine compartment without having to remove the engine? As it is I will =
have to take out the tunnel to get to the starter bolts.=20
=20
Another item I should have replaced when I rebuilt the engine was the =
oil pump. When the engine is hot the oil pressure drops to less that 20 =
psi at idle. This engine was rebuilt with only 20 over and is using the =
same cam etc. what oil pump should i install and is the Moss pump a =
reasonable replacement?
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Regards,
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class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Isn=E2=80=99t there a braided earth =
strap lurking down there somewhere? <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>With regard =
to a new type starter, WOSP in my case, it really does spin the engine =
faster than the original. Much faster. The WOSP=E2=80=99s noise lacks =
the old-fashioned <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>gravitas(?) of the Lucas and, to be =
frank, sounds a bit like a Renault bread van! Or =
whatever..<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>And, the BJ8s, with their =
2=E2=80=9D SUs, don=E2=80=99t they need a nice fast spin to get the =
mixture in?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Simon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><di=
v style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob =
Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> 11 December 2020 16:26<br><b>To:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Replacing the =
starter with a gear reduction =
starter<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>My BN2 became hard to start a while ago. =
I installed new batteries and had the starter rebuilt, and I painted it. =
When I'd initially installed the starter I'd used grade 8 bolts, grade 8 =
nuts and grade 8 split washers and flat washers under the nuts. I took =
the starter to a local shop, who said the starter checked-out fine. When =
I re-installed it I omitted the flat-washers, and the starter worked! =
Apparently, there was enough paint on the starter and the engine paint =
to prevent good conduction; the split washers cut through the paint =
enough to allow conductivity. I don't know if grade 8 hardware is less =
conductive than grade 5, but since the starter is grounded through the =
engine plate you need a good connection there (IOW, scrape the paint =
off).<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 12/10/2020 8:36 =
PM, banjojohn via Healeys wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I expect you've already checked other possible reasons =
for hard starting issues, but I had a problem a few years ago that =
turned out to be a poor connection at a battery terminal resulting in =
high resistance. Just a thought before you start replacing things =
is to check connections and grounds.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>John O'Brien<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>'61 bugeye (Lucy)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>'65 BJ8 (Madelyn)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div =
id=3D"composer_signature"><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:9.5pt;color:#575757'>Sent from my Sprint Samsung =
Galaxy S10e.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>-------- Original message =
--------<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>From: Michael Oritt via Healeys <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.teaadycheckedm.net";><healeys@autox.teaady=
checked m.net></a> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:black'>Date: 12/10/20 9:00 PM =
(GMT-06:00) <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>To: Bob Begani <a =
href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";><rfbegani@gmail.com></a> =
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Cc: Ahealey help <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net></a>=
<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Replacing the starter with =
a gear reduction starter <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Bob--<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>As said you can install =
the starter from under the car. Though the adapter plates and =
motor units are indexable to fit most all applications usually there is =
only one position that will fit on each car so you will =
probably have to play with things a bit before you find the =
correct set-up.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael Oritt<o:p></o:p></span></p></d=
iv><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 2:56 PM Bob Begani <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com";>rfbegani@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>You =
may remember I mentioned my BJ8 would not start after a run because of =
overheating. the engine did turn over with a wrench, and 50 amp on =
the starter made it only moan. So I will replace the =
starter. Many of you have recommended a gear =
reduction starter which is available from Moss and others. What =
source do you recomend.? Also, I see it shows an additional bulge =
which must be the gears. Will it fit into my BJ8 engine =
compartment without having to remove the engine? As it is I will =
have to take out the tunnel to get to the starter bolts. =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Another item I should have replaced when I rebuilt the =
engine was the oil pump. When the engine is hot the oil pressure =
drops to less that 20 psi at idle. This engine was rebuilt with =
only 20 over and is using the same cam etc. what oil pump =
should i install and is the Moss pump a reasonable =
replacement?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></blockqu=
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