Now THAT would drive me over the top! we're talkin "film at 11" mad!!
Fred, I'm NOT saying the 1600 is a slouch, far from it, but the 2L was meant
to be the high performance car of the two. And like any performance car it
is more tempermental, and when they blowup they can really self destruct.
Still for bottom end pulling, top end speed, sound, looks and pure excitment
I'll take it over the 1600 any time!
But then I also have a nice reliable fun 1.6L Miata as well... (NOTE:
comsumations have been performed IN it not WITH it)
Richard
'69 2000
'91 Miata
'86 F250 4x4
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From: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us
Reply-To: Fred_Katz@ci.sf.ca.us
To: sandhoff@csus.edu, datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net, "Richard Rudden"
<sequoia12@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re[2]: 1600 vs 2000 (was: I'm sold!)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 13:26:14 -0700
Richard,
You are very lucky. I have also had my 2000 for 30 years, but had two chain
failures (and a 5-speed failure). Once I left my 2000 at a shop to have new
tires mounted. With explicit instructions not to race the engine or abuse
the car. When I came back they said my engine wouldn't start. Popped the
hood only to find holes in the valve cover and the timing chain cover -
they were obviously playing with the roadster, drag-racing it around the
shop. Cost me a bundle to get it fixed, and the tire store refused my
claims for reimbursement. I was young and couldn't afford a lawyer. After
that experience I bring in rims/mags for new tires and mount them on the
car myself.
Maybe you can baby your car, but don't think anyone else will! And if a
2000 busts it costs so much more than a 1600.
I've got both 1600's and 2000's. I feel confident in using my 1600 in any
rough situation, knowing that it will take abuse and keep on ticking. I've
used the 1600 as a daily driver, and put many thousands of miles on it. Not
so with the 2000, it's a weekend driver only.
Fred - So.SF
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Subject: Re: 1600 vs 2000 (was: I'm sold!)
Author: "Richard Rudden" <sequoia12@hotmail.com>
Date: 4/13/2001 12:28 PM
Ouch John...
I've had my 2000 for 31 years, 146,000 miles and the only reason it's down
now is due to really poor machine work causing a valve seat to part company
with the head... Maybe I've been lucky, I've not had a catastrophic chain
failure.
Actually you do make some very good points, pretty much sums up the
different character of the 2 cars. Both do require TLC, both are a whole lot
o' fun! I suppose it gets down to what you want out of the car and which
pleases the seat of your pants most.
Richard R
'69 2000
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From: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff@csus.edu>
Reply-To: "John F Sandhoff" <sandhoff@csus.edu>
To: datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
Subject: 1600 vs 2000 (was: I'm sold!)
Date: Fri, 13 Apr 2001 11:36:17 -0700
It was written:
> My sentiments exactly! Both great cars, but the 2000's got it all!!
Including an engine that throws NLA timing chains thru the valve
cover :-)
Sorry, cheap shop..
Actually, I have both a 1600 and a 2000. I like them both. They each
have their niches. The 2000 with its 5 speed is a GREAT freeway
cruiser. It purrs a little above 3000 revs while the 1600 is churning
at 4000 to keep up. (yes, I drive conservatively). I don't like the
physical shifting on the 5 speed though.
The 1600 is great for in-town stop and go. I prefer its gearing for city
streets, and it zips around very nicely if you don't need the top end.
The engine, IMHO, is a more robust design. Hopefully I won't detonate
either, but finding parts to put a U20 back together is definitely getting
to be worrisome.
Of course, that 4-speed has the weak countershaft bearings. BTDT,
blew the cluster gear, awaiting a rebuild... OTOH, the 5-speed has the
press-fit 5th gear waiting to let go...
Bottom line: They're BOTH fine little automobiles! Either model performs
well within legal and safe driving limits.
(Flames off-list, please)
-- John
John F Sandhoff sandhoff@csus.edu Sacramento, CA
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