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Re: SP Proposal

To: bob1 <bob1@structured.net>
Subject: Re: SP Proposal
From: Jay Mitchell <jemitchell@compuserve.com>
Date: Sat, 03 Apr 1999 15:57:50 -0800
bob1 wrote:

> Jay, You can't compare the availability of the 911's in the < $20k years to 
>Elan and say
> they're similar.

I didn't. I DID say you can find one if you want one, and without much
difficulty. They are readily available.

>  I've looked in the Portland, OR paper for a year and haven't seen one.

I also didn't say you could read only your local classifieds and find
one. However, a serious autoxer can easily find an Elan, if that's what
(s)he wants. Ask Byron or Matt about finding their desired AS 944 or
968. It's not at all uncommon to have to go out of town or out of state
to acquire just what you're looking for. Lotuses are no different.

>But there will be about a half dozen 1969-1980 911 listed for
> under $20k.  Unfortunately, all of these need an engine swap to be "nat'l 
>competitive"
> in ASP.

They'll need quite a bit in addition to the engine swap to be
competitive in ASP. But the car's potential is there regardless, and SP
does allow update/backdate. It is unfortunate that it is so expensive to
make a 911 competitive in ASP, but it is possible nonetheless.
Competitive potential is the definitive quality here.

> To "properly prepare" one of these, I'd have to pay about $10k to get a 3.2 
>motor.
> Proposal should be to put 2.4 and under in BSP, 'cause a '70-78 911 with a 
>3.2 engine
> swap *is* about as rare as an Elan.

That's the nature of SP. There are a number of car models which are only
competitive if you take maximum advantage of update/backdate, and the
resulting combination is something that was never available in that
form. That is specifically why the SP rules don't segregate model years.

>  These cheaper 911 are kind of like the 1.6 miata:
> a nice car but made into a regional only in SP unless you do an engine swap.

Well, 'most any stock car will only be competitive in SP if you do
certain modifications. And all Miatas are on the same line in CSP. Some
mods are more expensive than others, but again, that's the nature of SP.
Owning a Porsche is expensive. Prepping and campaigning a Porsche in
serious competition is more expensive. I would not consider that a
justification for parsing different versions of what is essentially the
same car into different SP classes. There are all sorts of other cars
about which you could make exactly the same argument. Additionally, the
most competitive SP 911s now in existence would likely be rendered
illegal by what you propose.

Jay





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