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Re: 74 TR6 Timing

To: WaltP@Anspach.com, 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: 74 TR6 Timing
From: "Cris Hemingway" <cris_tr6@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:21:46 -0700
>From: Walt Philipson <WaltP@Anspach.com>
>Reply-To: Walt Philipson <WaltP@Anspach.com>
>To: "6 Pack (E-mail)" <6pack@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: 74 TR6 Timing
>Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 08:52:29 -0400
>
>If I remember my IC Engines theory, (that was longer ago than I care to
>admit) retarded timing will cause a hotter engine. I believe it is because
>ignition is occurring at lower pressures and burning longer. Since the
>combustion process is also starting later and lasting longer, more surface
>area is exposed to the heat of combustion. It can also cause the exhaust
>gasses to be hotter since there has been less expansion before the exhaust
>valve opens.
>
>I've been playing with my timing and it is now set at about 16 BTDC. I'm
>getting no pinging when accelerating hard under load (1000 rpm in 4th). I'm
>also getting no running on at shut down. The throttle response is great. My
>vacuum retard doesn't work, so it's disconnected, otherwise my engine is
>completely stock. I'm thinking of bumping it up some more, as long as I
>don't get any pinging. Any risk to this? I'm using 92 octane.
>
>Walt Philipson
>'74 TR6
>
>

Walt:

Similar experimentation with my basically stock '76 with no air pump, or 
vacuum retard operatrional has resulted in my running my timing at 26 
degrees advance with no pinging, great response, good gas mileage, and no 
overheating problems whatsoever.   I have checked to make sure there isn't 
any discrepancy between the flywheel timing marks and actual TDC, so the 
numbers are accurate.  I use ebetween 91 and 94 octane depending on what I 
can find when I fill up, but tend to buy the 94 most of the time.

I have been running it this way for over 2 years  and more than 10,000 miles 
now so it's not hurting anything that I can see.

What led me to advance my timing so far was a bad stutter on acceleration at 
anything less than this setting.  This cured the problem for me, and like 
you, I can lug my engine way down and it stills pulls cleanly when I put my 
foot back on the gas.

Try advancing it further if you like, as long as you don't get to the point 
where it pings, there is little or no harm to it.

Good luck,
Cris

Cris Hemingway

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