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From: "Steve Kirby" <skirby210@cox.net>
Date: Wed, 25 Dec 2013 11:55:43 -0800
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having just typed my fingertips off, this sums it up nicely, correctly =
and perfectly!!!!
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Steve Hanegan=20
  To: List for the Z Magnette Group - North America=20
  Sent: Wednesday, December 25, 2013 11:02 AM
  Subject: Re: [Zmagnette] Paint


  Scott,


  I would highly recommend that you consult with the manufacturer of the =
paint that you intend to use for your final color coat. Modern paints =
are designed to work together as a system and each manufacturer will =
have their own proprietary and tested processes and materials. I would =
stick to one manufacturer's solvents, cleaners, thinners as well.


  All paint manufacturers that I know of will have some sort of etching =
or epoxy material to be laid down first to seal the metal and lay a =
foundation for an intermediate coating that can be sanded and used with =
glazes and fillers and such to refine the surface to remove any minute =
imperfections. This typically would be followed with a coat to seal this =
primer and provide the base for the final color and clear coats. Here is =
a link to PPG's newer systems as an example:


  =
http://www.ppg.com/coatings/autooem/products/Pages/compactpaintsystems.as=
px


  Steve H.


  On Dec 25, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Scott Woolman =
<scottewoolman@hotmail.com> wrote:


    At a risk of getting overwhelmed with opinions. Here is my question. =
My MG is down to metal  all rust and body is done. Should I use an =
acrylic etching primer then a sandable primer.=20
    Thanks
    Scott  =20

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<DIV>having just typed my fingertips off, this sums it up nicely, =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, December 25, =
2013 11:02=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Zmagnette] =
Paint</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Scott,
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>I would highly recommend that you consult with the manufacturer =
of the=20
  paint that you intend to use for your final color coat. Modern paints =
are=20
  designed to work together as a system and each manufacturer will have =
their=20
  own proprietary and tested processes and materials. I would stick to =
one=20
  manufacturer's solvents, cleaners, thinners as well.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>All paint manufacturers that I know of will have some sort of =
etching or=20
  epoxy material to be laid down first to seal the metal and lay a =
foundation=20
  for an intermediate coating that can be sanded and used with glazes =
and=20
  fillers and such to refine the surface to remove any minute =
imperfections.=20
  This typically would be followed with a coat to seal this primer and =
provide=20
  the base for the final color and clear coats. Here is a link to PPG's =
newer=20
  systems as an example:</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV><A=20
  =
href=3D"http://www.ppg.com/coatings/autooem/products/Pages/compactpaintsy=
stems.aspx">http://www.ppg.com/coatings/autooem/products/Pages/compactpai=
ntsystems.aspx</A></DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>Steve H.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>
  <DIV>On Dec 25, 2013, at 10:43 AM, Scott Woolman &lt;<A=20
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t;=20
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  <BLOCKQUOTE type=3D"cite">At a risk of getting overwhelmed with =
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    is my question. My MG is down to metal &nbsp;all rust and body is =
done.=20
    Should I use an acrylic etching primer then a sandable primer.=20
    <BR>Thanks<BR>Scott &nbsp;&nbsp;<BR><BR>Sent from my=20
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