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Re: Alfa powered sports racers

To: Craig Wright <craig@p-d-g.com>
Subject: Re: Alfa powered sports racers
From: Richard Hardison <cobra@airmail.net>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 16:47:30 -0500
The Alfa powered Beach formula B is a nice car.  I saw the new owner, Ed
Zeigler, run it at the CVAR event 2 weeks ago.

Richard Hardison

Craig Wright wrote:
> 
> This Alfa formula B looks like a good deal as well. If I could, I'd seriously
> consider it.
> 
> http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/other/b11104/b11104ss.htm
> 
> Too many cars, so little money,
> 
> Craig Wright
> 
> Brian Evans wrote:
> 
> > The GSM Delta, from South Africa, I think, came with an Alfa engine.
> > production sports car, not sports racer, but still interesting.  Anyway, the
> > Bobsy's that I've seen advertised struck me as kind of reasonably priced,
> > compared to the unrealistically high value that I hope my Merlyn MK6A
> > aspires too  :)
> >
> > Why not get the sports racer of your choice, and put an Alfa engine in it?
> > Create some history, as opposed to settling for merely re-creating it!
> >
> > Seriously, Derek Harling (who monitors this list) has an interesting early
> > 70's SR (the fiberglass tub one, which name I forget), I think engineless,
> > that could be ideal with a 1600cc Alfa engine.  He was going to put a 2
> > liter Cosworth BD in it, but has a few other projects last I talked to 
>him...
> >
> > Cheers, Brian
> >
> > At 01:47 PM 5/11/99 -0400, you wrote:
> > >That would be a Bourgeault, a rare car indeed. The sports racers were the
> > >last cars he worked on before he passed away. Bourgeault also made engine
> > >adapters so you could bolt an Alfa engine to a Hewland transaxle. When I
> > >bought his first purpose-built race car, the Bourgeault Formula Junior,
> > >part of the package included some brochures he had printed for a later
> > >series of formula cars, as well as the engine adapters, oil coolers, and
> > >remote oil filter adapters. Locally (SF Bay Area), Pete Lewis has been
> > >working on a Bourgeault sports racer for somebody for a while now. It came
> > >as several baskets of mismatched parts. ;=( I have a copy of a photo of a
> > >Bourgeault sports racer that had a BRM V-16 stuffed in it! Apparently the
> > >car was destroyed. Also locally, Felix Chiu is going to be running an Elva-
> > >Alfa sports racer. There is also a Genie-Alfa, and perhaps a Bobsy-Alfa
> > >circulating local tracks. Alas, none of these would be cheap. At last years
> > >Concours Italiano, the deal of the century had to be a Formula B car with a
> > >GTA motor for $24K!!! Pretty much any decent sports racer will likely cost
> > >$60K and up. You might get a basket case for less, but end up spending more
> > >in the long run. Keep looking.
> > >
> > >It's really a miracle any of these cars survived, when you think about it.
> > >
> > >PaceCars@aol.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I remember seeing a Bourgault (sp?) sports-racer with Alfa power running 
>in
> > >> the Midwest division SCCA in the mid-1970s. Also, Ausca (Kwech) built at
> > >> least one Alfa-powered SR. And a friend of mine (Lon McKinstry) ran a 
>1300
> > >> Alfa-powered Elva Mk.7s in Southwest division SCCA in the early 1970s. 
>Elva
> > >> also built several Alfa-powered MkIII front-engined sports racers that 
>were
> > >> run in the US, including at Sebring. And as you say, several Bobsys got 
>Alfa
> > >> power at some point in their careers.
> > >...
> > >> Harold Pace
> > >> Devin SS
> > >> Mallock U2
> > >> In a message dated 5/11/99 12:08:23 PM, alfaguy@nettally.com wrote:
> > >>
> > >> >Historic sports racers have always interested me, and I would like to 
>race
> > >> >one one some day.  But given my passion for Alfa Romeo's, any sports 
>racer
> > >> >I would drive would have to be Alfa powered.  Can anyone on the list 
>offer
> > >> >the manufacturers such cars that ran Alfa engines?  The only ones I have
> > >> >seen on the track are Bobsy cars (real neat cars but very pricey).
> > >
> > Brian Evans
> > Director, Global Sales
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