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Re: [TR] TR4 originality questions

To: "'Bob Labuz'" <yellowtr@adelphia.net>, "'Gary Grant'"
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 originality questions
From: <wbeech@flash.net>
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:27:22 -0600
Gary,
Same set up on my TR3 with the oil line clip as Bob has described.  I do see
the clip called out on the parts manual as being for the flex pipe but,
oddly, it is not shown anywhere in the drawing.  Bob make the logical point
that it would be counter-productive to clip the flex line.  Sound like there
is a back-story here that only John Mc can explain?
Bill

-----Original Message-----
From: triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net
[mailto:triumphs-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bob Labuz
Sent: Saturday, January 28, 2012 8:21 AM
To: Gary Grant
Cc: list Triumph
Subject: Re: [TR] TR4 originality questions

Gary,

No answer on 1, my 4 is a 63 and has the coated panel with the vinyl grain.
For 2, I think the clip you are thinking of is a brass clip that attaches
the steel line from the oil filter assembly to the fuel pump stud. I just
checked my setup and there is no clip attached to the flex line. It is real
short and just curls around and attaches to the steel line to the gauge.
That line has at least 2 clips that attach to the firewall of the engine
bay. The flex line needs to flex and therefore wouldn't be attached to the
body.

On #3, I replaced the vinyl with some thin vinyl supplied by Macy's Garage.

I also had posted that query and they answered. What they have is some thin
black vinyl and they supply a length that you have to cut. It is not that
hard but you must be patient as the curves and the lower 3 attachment points
are a bit of a pain.

Also, in order to make a nice smooth transition between the horizontal and
the vertical, I folded the top and bottom edges and glued them first before
they were applied to the frame thus overlapping the verticals. 
Also be careful when you attach the windsield seal on both the bottom and
the glass to insure it overlaps the vinyl. You can contact Macys at: 
http://www.macysgarage.com/index.html

Bob

On 01/28/2012 07:31 AM, Gary Grant wrote:
> It's been a while since there's been an active discussion on TR4 
> originality, but I have some questions.
>
> 1. There were 3 different panels used for the minor gauges. The first, 
> used up to 4397CT, had an aluminum panel stamped with a hatched 
> pattern. In addition, there was a panel painted in a black wrinkle 
> finish and a steel panel coated with an embossed leather grain. Can 
> anyone that has the wrinkle painted version tell me if it is aluminum 
> like the early version or steel like the later version?
>
> 2. The short oil pressure flexible line was clipped to the body using 
> clip
> 100148 (same as the TR3). This clip is not available from the usual 
> sources and I can find no photos. The same clip was used to clip the 
> tachometer cable to the battery hook bracket on the TR4. Does anyone 
> have a photo of this clip? I am NOT referring to the clips used for 
> the hard lines (one on the fuel pump stud and two on the body).
>
> 3. My project TR4 (CT 1547 L) has vinyl trim on the inside of the 
> windshield frame. I'm fairly sure it is original because it goes umder 
> the chrome windshield capping and the capping rivets are punched 
> through the trim. In his originality book, Bill Piggot mentions that 
> the trim was on all cars from the TR4 through the TR6 and his photos 
> support this. However the trim does not appear in the spare parts 
> catalogs until the TR4A and I have seen several examples where the 
> inside frame is painted body color. Any comments on this?
>
>
> Gary

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