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Subject: GT6 Clutch Puzzler
From: "Richard Ceraldi-ERC004" <Richard_Ceraldi-ERC004@email.mot.com>
Date: Wed, 23 Oct 1996 11:59:33 -0500
X400-mts-identifier: [ /P=MOT/A=MOT/C=US/ ; m\pwms1\961023115933h ]
Scions,
Here is a test for your troubleshooting skills. Fortunatly I will give the 
answer at the end of the post.

Situation:
Driving around town with a tank of 105 octane leaded (so you know I am not 
lugging the engine) winding out a gear, step on the clutch to shift and will 
not dissengage. I limped home timing lights and shifting by matching revs 
and not stopping for cats (oops sorry it just slipped out).

Mechanical Status:
1. Gearbox less than 1 year old unit from Kipping
2. Master and Slave replaced new less than 1 year old.
3. Clutch, Pressure Plate (Cover for UK guys), Throwout Bearing,  Approx    
    5k miles on unit purchased back in '82 and installed in '91 (Hey, I was 
    stockpiling parts after the dealers went belly up. ok?)
4. Engine is low mileage (25K) factory built engine for a '72 (another 
   part of my stash from the late 70's)
5. Car driven several times a week (won't even entertain splines rusted    
    to the shaft). 

Trouble Shooting:
1. Initial thought that the clutch is dry. But the tank is full with no 
signs of a leak. When stepping on clutch you can see the slave pin moving.
2. Next guess, somehow air got into a perfectly tight system.  Re bleed and 
flush the system with new silicone. Of course no air and no change. 
3. Ok, I needed to vaccum under the seats anyway so remove the interior, 
tunnel cover and ponder.
4. Travel at the slave is .6 inches (15.25mm for you metric kind of guys). 
More than enough travel. Shop manual say Pressure Plate only requires .29" 
of movement (7.3mm) to be in spec.
5. Just in case made some quick spacers to move it closer in case I could 
trick the hydraulics into pushing the Pressure Plate further. Perhaps that 
is why the call it self adjusting (duh). No change. 
6. Shift through all the gears with engine off just to check the gearbox one 
more time while contemplating the theory of expanding universes and 
waistlines.
7. Wanting to put off pulling the gearbox I find rebuild kits (from the 
stash again) and rebuild the new master and slave cylinders. rebleed again 
no change.
8. To satisy the morbid souls that think (or forget to install) thrust 
washers in the engine I removed the belt and checked the play in the crank. 
A ha! foiled again! Those darned Leyland mechanic installed them after tea. 
but before ale on a Tuesday.  .006 ' movement. I know all you drooling 
thrust washer buffs out there are bummed now! 
9.  Getting narrowed down now to something bolted to the flywheel. 
All the previous steps were just a way of putting off the inevitable. With 
help from a fellow Scion (rgb@exact.com) out comes the gearbox through the 
passenger side (US version).
 
Answer:
Hoping for parts to fall out and make it easy we were dissapointed. Removing 
the PP and inspecting from a better position we noticed part of the contact 
area for the bearing collapsed. On the flip side the plate was sitting at an 
angle. It was almost like the thing was in a half release and half engage 
mode. 

Epiloge:
Of course I suspected the Pressure Plate all along but was looking for an 
easy way out. Of all the people whose brains I picked on the way  only John 
Kipping came up with the same conclusion. But he did one better, using some 
psycic powers predicted the letters stamped in the cover plate to be QH. To 
those that don't know that stands for Quentin Hazel. 

Richard 'Just wanted to hot rod that Saturday" Ceraldi
71 GT6 MKIII KF166L
Austin, Tx
 

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