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Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] Balancing wheels
From: old dirtbeard <dirtbeard@gmail.com>
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2020 15:17:53 -0700
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What I have found true for motorcycle wheels is that the valve stem in fact
often is not the heaviest segment of the wheel. I now balance my wheels
first without a tire and spray paint inside the rim the heaviest point, and
then align the yellow dot to that spot.

You only need to do the wheel balance once (the wheel balance should not
change over time) and it has reduced the amount of weight necessary for the
balance job.

best,

doug

On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 2:49 PM Brian Kemp <bk13@earthlink.net> wrote:

> New tires have had a dot indicating where the tire should line up close to
> the valve stem.  I got new tires for my new to me GT6 and thought they used
> a lot of weight - a 4" long one near a 2" long one.  Wondered if my rims
> might be bad.  Commented to a club member and they pointed out that my
> tires were mostly mounted about 180 deg off based on the tire marking vs.
> the valve stem.  Went back and talked to a manager and he said sometimes
> tires can take that much weight - not a problem with the big SUVs every
> drives these days.  Told him they were little 13" tires and he came out and
> looked at the car.  He had an experienced person adjust and rebalance the
> tires and the longest weight was then under 2".
>
> Brian
>
> On 9/5/2020 6:24 PM, Jeff Scarbrough wrote:
>
> Two thoughts:
>
> I have some really good foam tape - maybe 3M?  You can find it in all the
> usual places.
>
> I was always under the impression that new tires had a stamp thar
> indicated either the heavy spot or the light spot - it was meant to be
> mounted next to the valve stem.  That was supposed to minimize the amount
> of additional weight that needed to be applied.  It's been 40 years since I
> balanced a tire, though - things may have changed.
>
> On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 8:37 AM <eric@megageek.com> wrote:
>
>> So I been balancing wheels for a while now and I was wondering.  Can I
>> just buy the double sided tape to reuse all the stick on wheel weights I
>> have to remove each time?
>>
>> It seems like a no brainier to be able to reuse the weights, but I can't
>> find a double sided tape for that. (I'm guessing it needs to be pretty good
>> stuff to resist bumps, water, ice, dirt, etc.)
>>
>> All my searches come up with the weights already on the tape, but I just
>> want to tape.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> BTW, does anyone have any tips on how to balance tires?  I've watched a
>> bunch of videos, but it always seems that I need to balance and add weights
>> 5 or 6 times and end up putting on what seems like a lot of weight for each
>> tire.
>>
>> Just wondering.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
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>> being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your territory." Ralph
>> Waldo Emerson
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<div dir=3D"ltr">What I have found true for motorcycle wheels is that the v=
alve stem in fact often is not the heaviest segment of the wheel. I now bal=
ance my wheels first without a tire and spray paint inside the rim the heav=
iest point, and then align the yellow dot to that spot.<div><br></div><div>=
You only need to do the wheel balance once (the wheel balance should not ch=
ange over time) and it has reduced the amount of weight necessary for the b=
alance job.</div><div><br></div><div>best,</div><div><br></div><div>doug</d=
iv></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_att=
r">On Sun, Sep 6, 2020 at 2:49 PM Brian Kemp &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bk13@ear=
thlink.net">bk13@earthlink.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(2=
04,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
 =20
  <div>
    New tires have had a dot indicating where the tire should line up
    close to the valve stem.=C2=A0 I got new tires for my new to me GT6 and
    thought they used a lot of weight - a 4&quot; long one near a 2&quot; l=
ong
    one.=C2=A0 Wondered if my rims might be bad.=C2=A0 Commented to a club =
member
    and they pointed out that my tires were mostly mounted about 180 deg
    off based on the tire marking vs. the valve stem.=C2=A0 Went back and
    talked to a manager and he said sometimes tires can take that much
    weight - not a problem with the big SUVs every drives these days.=C2=A0
    Told him they were little 13&quot; tires and he came out and looked at
    the car.=C2=A0 He had an experienced person adjust and rebalance the
    tires and the longest weight was then under 2&quot;.<br>
    <br>
    Brian<br>
    <br>
    <div>On 9/5/2020 6:24 PM, Jeff Scarbrough
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"ltr">Two thoughts:
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I have some really good foam tape - maybe 3M?=C2=A0 You can fi=
nd
          it in all the usual places.</div>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>I was always under the impression that new tires had a
          stamp thar indicated either the heavy spot or the light spot -
          it was meant to be mounted next to the valve stem.=C2=A0 That was
          supposed to minimize the amount of additional weight that
          needed to be applied.=C2=A0 It&#39;s been 40 years since I balanc=
ed a
          tire, though - things may have changed.</div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sat, Sep 5, 2020 at 8:37 A=
M
          &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eric@megageek.com"; target=3D"_blank">eric@m=
egageek.com</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><font size=3D"2" =
face=3D"sans-serif">So I been balancing wheels for a
            while
            now and I was wondering.=C2=A0 Can I just buy the double sided
            tape to
            reuse all the stick on wheel weights I have to remove each
            time?</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">It seems like a no brainier
            to be able
            to reuse the weights, but I can&#39;t find a double sided tape
            for that. (I&#39;m
            guessing it needs to be pretty good stuff to resist bumps,
            water, ice,
            dirt, etc.)</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">All my searches come up with
            the weights
            already on the tape, but I just want to tape.</font>
          <br>
          <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
            Thanks.</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">BTW, does anyone have any
            tips on how
            to balance tires?=C2=A0 I&#39;ve watched a bunch of videos, but=
 it
            always seems
            that I need to balance and add weights 5 or 6 times and end
            up putting
            on what seems like a lot of weight for each tire.</font>
          <br>
          <br>
          <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif">Just wondering.</font>
          <br>
          <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
            Thanks.</font>
          <br>
          <font size=3D"2" face=3D"sans-serif"><br>
            <br>
            &quot;Be as beneficent as the sun or the sea, but if your right=
s
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            being are trenched on, die on the first inch of your
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            Waldo Emerson <br>
            -Who is John Galt?</font>______________________________________=
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