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Re: [Shop-talk] New PC (was Dead PC)

To: <wmc_st@xxiii.com>, "shop-talk@autox.team.net" <shop-talk@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] New PC (was Dead PC)
From: Jim Stone <jandkstone99@msn.com>
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 07:48:56 -0500
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References: <COL115-W58E4B77870867D8492C9FACCB60@phx.gbl>, <BE9BB823-8A04-4837-A456-328E3FC2BAB7@groupwbench.org>, <COL115-W23045AEE8B19378C9A9D8ECCB60@phx.gbl>, <502CF9E9.6080103@xxiii.com>, <COL115-W136C76C8ADF12F87E17264CCB40@phx.gbl>, <CAJ8HLP8RWK9FFoJrNxjJaCFocxmRW3ZRRN-ZVj9eX-VyknqvpA@mail.gmail.com> <COL115-W6363F64A34D6895DD6CE91CCB90@phx.gbl>, <50322BE9.5020508@xxiii.com> FILETIME=[29E55620:01CD7ED2]
Thanks everyone.  I have borrowed an adequate box, so I have a little time and
will keep researching.  As for building my own, I have considered this before;
maybe now is the time.  I will do a little research on the process before
making any decisions.

> Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2012 08:22:01 -0400
> From: wmc_st@xxiii.com
> To: jandkstone99@msn.com; shop-talk@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Shop-talk] New PC (was Dead PC)
>
> Hey Jim,
> I'm still a Windoze XP guy. Yeah, it's 11 years old, but it's fast, does
> everything I need, and I have a legit license for it on the dozen or so
> machines I take care of. Don't know anyone that likes Vista. I've used 7
> a little bit, and didn't see any reason to "upgrade". Mostly just frilly
> graphics, and when I finally found what I was looking for, it was the
> same identical friggin' dialogue box from XP. Just hidden much better.
>
> Anyway [rant off] from what I know of windows, any hardware change like
> a system board is gonna' make it refuse to boot. The Dell I recommended,
> much as I like them, is getting old at this point and takes DDR2 memory,
> which is a bunch more expensive & incompatible with  DDR3. It sounds
> like you have an OEM licensed version of windows, so yes -- it is tied
> to the system, and you can't legally transfer it to another box. Even if
> you wanted to, it will probably tell you it's not on the HP it was sold
> for, and refuse to install.
>
> If you're happy with what you had, I'd try to score an identical mobo'
> or system on Ebay and drop it in. Otherwise, buy a case & board from
> newegg.com and build one. I'd recommend ASUS, Gateway, or MSI in that
> order for boards. ASUS is somewhat pricey, but they've been the OEM
> supplier to HP, IBM, and Compaq for the last couple decades. Top notch.
>
> Shoot - your HP probably has the video integrated on the board. There's
> an NVidia 8400 series board you can get for about $35 that's my fave.
> It's like the slowest chipset on the market today, but by being slow
> it's low-power; you can get a nice quiet fan-less board that's fast
> enough for any general use. Unless you're into video games or cad/cam,
> no sense running up your electric bill and listening to a fan shriek.
>
> -w
>
> On 8/19/2012 11:41 PM, Jim Stone wrote:
> > Well, based on what I have learned here and through my online research, I
> > don't think it will be worth the expense and effort to replace my
motherboard.
> > However, I really don't want to spend much money on a new one right now,
so I
> > am thinking about getting a used or refurbished one.  I'd like to keep it
> > under $200.  Ideally, I would like something at least as fast as what I
> > currently have (HP Pavilion 5150T, Intel Dual Core processor E5300, 4GB
DR3 -
> > 1066MHZ SDRAM, 640GB SATA HD).  Also ideally, I would like to be able to
just
> > move my current hard drive over to the new PC and have two internal hard
> > drives.  (I know I can get a SATA case, but I did say "ideally".)  And,
while
> > I am wishing, it would be nice to be able to move my memory cards over to
the
> > new PC to increase it's power for free.  I would also like it to run
Windows
> > 7, although I could probably be talked out of that if necessary.  (I may
be
> > wrong about this, but I don't think I can transfer my current copy over.
I
> > bought my HP right before Win7 was released, and it came with an
automatic
> > upgrade once the system was out.  As I recall, there was something in the
> > license that said it couldn't be transferred to another machine.  But, I
could
> > be wrong about that.)
> >
> > So, my first question is: does anyone have any recommendations for a
good,
> > reputable place to buy a refurbished PC?  Beyond that, any recommendations
on
> > a specific PC?  Following Wayne's advice, I have been looking at Dell
> > Precision 390's.  They seem to be at the upper end of my price range, but
> > something like this might work:
> >
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=110935816819&fromMakeTrack
> > =true&ssPageName=VIP:watchlink:top:en
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