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Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued
From: richard mayor <boyracer466@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 9 Jul 2024 10:02:58 -0700
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Richard Mayor
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> On Jul 9, 2024, at 9:57=E2=80=AFAM, Ken via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
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> I will experiment with a mityvac and some tubing to the float bowl =
drain pipes to try and simulate some of the tr6 arrangements. I am not =
going to add a charcoal cannister!
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> Ken
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> Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
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> -------- Original message --------
> From: JSARCH via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Date: 7/9/24 12:07 AM (GMT-08:00)
> To: 'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE' <ynotink@msn.com>, 'Michael Salter via =
Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>, 'Bob Spidell' <bspidell@comcast.net>, =
'Michael Salter' <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued
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> There are lots of suggestions for mechanical solutions for your =
problem, however one of the leading causes is carbon buildup on the =
pistons. I would suggest adding Chevron Techron into your fuel tank for =
a few drives. It is advertised as a solution to reduce carbon build up =
in the combustion chamber which is one of the leading causes of =
dieseling.
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> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of WILLIAM B =
LAWRENCE
> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2024 8:47 PM
> To: Michael Salter via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>; Bob Spidell =
<bspidell@comcast.net>; Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued
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> Bob Slidell, sorry I don=E2=80=99t have any report on that.
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> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net =
> Sent: Monday, July 8, 2024 9:49 PM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued
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> Totally stopped any run-on.
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> M
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> On Mon., Jul. 8, 2024, 11:19 a.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net =
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> Did it prevent run-on?
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> On 7/7/2024 11:02 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys wrote:
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> The TR 6 (circa 1974) had a solenoid valve that dumped manifold vacuum =
when the ignition switch was turned off.
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> Bill L awrence
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> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> =
> Sent: Sunday, July 7, 2024 10:01 PM
> Cc: AustinHealeylist <healeys@autox.team.net> =
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle coninued
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> =20
> The later model MGB used an "Anti Run-on Valve" which subjected the =
float chambers to manifold vacuum when the key was turned off. I  would =
think one could be installed on a BJ8 without too much difficulty.=20
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> M
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> On Sun., Jul. 7, 2024, 5:11 p.m. Ken Freese via Healeys, =
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> I already do the dump the clutch technique.
> I have found that that the slower the idle the less run on, probably =
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> to less fuel present.
> In a round about way my question was probably which idle technique =
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> a leaner mixture? Maybe at a specified idle speed the mixtures are the=20=

> same.
> Since American cars of the 70's used idle solenoids, I am thinking I=20=

> could put on a solenoid for the idle with ignition off. When ignition =
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> off the throttle blades go completely closed. Combined with a low idle =
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> might be less irritated.
> Ken Freese
> 65 BJ8
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> On 2024-07-05 11:54, Ken Freese via Healeys wrote:
> > Which technique will minimize dieseling on my BJ8, using the slow =
run
> > valve for a low idle or closing the slow run valve and using the
> > throttle screw for a low idle? Joe Curto hasn't responded yet.
> > I know an aluminium head would fix the whole high compression =
problem,
> > but I am not there yet.
> > Thanks,
> > Ken Freese
> > 65 BJ8
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<div>Richard =
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<div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>On Jul 9, 2024, at 9:57=E2=80=AFAM=
, Ken via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type"=
 content=3D"text/html; charset=3DUTF-8"><div dir=3D"auto"><div =
dir=3D"auto">I will experiment with a mityvac and some tubing to the =
float bowl drain pipes to try and simulate some of the tr6 arrangements. =
I am not going to add a charcoal cannister!</div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Ken</div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div id=3D"composer_signature" dir=3D"auto"><div =
style=3D"font-size:12px;color:#575757" dir=3D"auto">Sent from my =
Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone</div></div><div =
dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align=3D"left" dir=3D"auto" =
style=3D"font-size: 100%;"><div>-------- Original message =
--------</div><div>From: JSARCH via Healeys =
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt; </div><div>Date: 7/9/24  12:07 AM  =
(GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: 'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE' &lt;ynotink@msn.com&gt;, =
'Michael Salter via Healeys' &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;, 'Bob =
Spidell' &lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;, 'Michael Salter' =
&lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt; </div><div>Subject: Re: [Healeys] SU =
slow run valve or open throttle coninued </div><div><br></div></div><div =
class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There are lots of =
suggestions for mechanical solutions for your problem, however one of =
the leading causes is carbon buildup on the pistons. I would suggest =
adding Chevron Techron into your fuel tank for a few drives. It is =
advertised as a solution to reduce carbon build up in the combustion =
chamber which is one of the leading causes of =
dieseling.</p><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div =
style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Healeys =
&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>WILLIAM B =
LAWRENCE<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 8, 2024 8:47 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Michael Salter via Healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;; Bob Spidell =
&lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;; Michael Salter =
&lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] SU slow =
run valve or open throttle coninued</p></div></div><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-family:&quot;inherit&quot;,serif">Bob Slidell, sorry I =
don=E2=80=99t have any report on that.</span></p></div><div =
style=3D"text-align:center" align=3D"center" class=3D"MsoNormal"><hr =
align=3D"center" width=3D"98%" size=3D"2"></div><div =
id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span =
style=3D"">From:</span></b><span style=3D""> Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>healeys-bounces@autox.team.=
net</a>&gt; on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><=
b>Sent:</b> Monday, July 8, 2024 9:49 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Spidell =
&lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Cc=
:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>=
 &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><=
b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle =
coninued</span> </p><div><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Totally stopped any run-on. </p><div><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">M</p></div></div><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Mon., Jul. 8, 2024, 11:19 a.m. Bob Spidell, =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><p =
style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt" class=3D"MsoNormal">Did it prevent =
run-on?<br><br></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 7/7/2024 11:02 PM, =
WILLIAM B LAWRENCE via Healeys wrote:</p></div><blockquote =
style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;inherit&quot;,serif">The TR 6 (circa 1974) =
had a solenoid valve that dumped manifold vacuum when the ignition =
switch was turned off.</span></p></div><div><div><span =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;inherit&quot;,serif">&nbsp;</span><br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><span =
style=3D"font-family:&quot;inherit&quot;,serif">Bill L =
awrence</span></p></div><div style=3D"text-align:center" align=3D"center" =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><hr align=3D"center" width=3D"98%" =
size=3D"2"></div><div id=3D"x_m_7942320862215277468divRplyFwdMsg"><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"">From:</span></b><span style=3D""> =
Healeys <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.t=
eam.net&gt;</a> on behalf of Michael Salter via Healeys <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><=
br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 7, 2024 10:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> goldengt <a =
href=3D"mailto:goldengt@cal.net";>&lt;goldengt@cal.net&gt;</a><br><b>Cc:</b=
> AustinHealeylist <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><=
br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] SU slow run valve or open throttle =
coninued</span> </p><div><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div></div><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">The later model MGB used an "Anti Run-on Valve" =
which subjected the float chambers to manifold vacuum when the key was =
turned off. I&nbsp; would think one could be installed on a BJ8 without =
too much difficulty.&nbsp; </p><div><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div></div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">M</p></div></div><div>&nbsp;<br =
class=3D"webkit-block-placeholder"></div><div><div><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun., Jul. 7, 2024, 5:11 p.m. Ken Freese via =
Healeys, &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid =
#CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I =
already do the dump the clutch technique.<br>I have found that that the =
slower the idle the less run on, probably due <br>to less fuel =
present.<br>In a round about way my question was probably which idle =
technique gives <br>a leaner mixture? Maybe at a specified idle speed =
the mixtures are the <br>same.<br>Since American cars of the 70's used =
idle solenoids, I am thinking I <br>could put on a solenoid for the idle =
with ignition off. When ignition is <br>off the throttle blades go =
completely closed. Combined with a low idle I <br>might be less =
irritated.<br>Ken Freese<br>65 BJ8<br><br>On 2024-07-05 11:54, Ken =
Freese via Healeys wrote:<br>&gt; Which technique will minimize =
dieseling on my BJ8, using the slow run<br>&gt; valve for a low idle or =
closing the slow run valve and using the<br>&gt; throttle screw for a =
low idle? Joe Curto hasn't responded yet.<br>&gt; I know an aluminium =
head would fix the whole high compression problem,<br>&gt; but I am not =
there yet.<br>&gt; Thanks,<br>&gt; Ken Freese<br>&gt; 65 =
BJ8</p></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div><p =
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