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Re: Roadster styling (was originality thread)

To: datsunmike@nyc.rr.com, gsglasgow@attbi.com,
Subject: Re: Roadster styling (was originality thread)
From: "Chris Robertson" <ckrobertson@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 17 Dec 2001 22:03:08 -0600
Did Goetz have someting to do with the BMW 507?


>From: "datsunmike" <datsunmike@nyc.rr.com>
>To: "Chris Robertson" <ckrobertson@hotmail.com>, <gsglasgow@attbi.com>,   
><datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
>Subject: Re: Roadster styling (was originality thread)
>Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 21:03:02 -0500
>
>Count Albrecht Goetz designed the Silvia - CSP series and had a major hand
>in the design of the 240 although Nissan denied his involvement for many
>years.
>
>I had the pleasure of having an interview with him about 20 years ago at 
>his
>studio which was located close to where I worked.
>
>He had nothing to do with the Roadster.
>
>Mike
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Chris Robertson" <ckrobertson@hotmail.com>
>To: <gsglasgow@attbi.com>; <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
>Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 8:51 PM
>Subject: RE: Roadster styling (was originality thread)
>
>
> > I read years ago that the designer(s) of the BMW 507 had something to do
> > with the roadster.  Can anyone confirm this or provide more details?
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > >From: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow@attbi.com>
> > >Reply-To: "Gordon Glasgow" <gsglasgow@attbi.com>
> > >To: " roadster List" <datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net>
> > >Subject: RE: Roadster styling (was originality thread)
> > >Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2001 17:38:53 -0800
> > >
> > >If you look at Hidehiro IIzuka's early stying sketches as reproduced in
> > >Phill
> > >Brook's (excellent) book, it appears that the tailights and relatively
>flat
> > >rear
> > >panel were part of the design from the very beginning. I think the
> > >taillights
> > >have a rather jet-exhaust look, which was quite common in that era.
> > >
> > >Of course, the panel isn't completely flat but rather has some
>interesting
> > >contours, which I'm sure has caused no end of grief to
> > >less-than-knowledgeable
> > >body men.
> > >
> > >By 1969 Triumph had picked up the flat rear panel idea in the
> > >Michelotti/Karmann
> > >designed TR6, which I always thought looked great. In fact, at one time 
>I
> > >painted the rear panel on my roadster flat black like the Triumph 
>(partly
> > >to
> > >hide corrosion).
> > >
> > >Gordon Glasgow
> > >Renton, WA
> > >
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> > > > [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of snyler
> > > > Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2001 5:08 PM
> > > > To: Mark Sedlack; roadster List
> > > > Subject: Roadster styling (was originality thread)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Mark Sedlack wrote
> > > >
> > > > >However, I personally have never liked the "flat" rear-end panel on
>the
> > > > >Roadster, and have always suspected it was due primarily to ease of
> > > > >manufacture, rather than a planned styling detail.
> > > > I've wondered about the back recently myself.  Perhaps it's a cost
> > >thing,
> > > > perhaps the roadster was ahead of its time, anticipating the 
>Kamm-back
> > > > styling of the late 60s.  I used to think the taillights were stuck
> > > > on...items pulled from the Nissan parts bin, but they're unique to 
>the
> > > > roadster.  If they'd used Bluebird  (311) taillights of the era 
>(which
> > > > look like they might fit)  there'd be much more of an MGB 
>resemblance.
> > >I
> > > > know the Roadster had its debut a year earlier, but it's hard enough
>to
> > > > convince folks of the order of appearance as it is.
> > > > -Marc T.
> > > >
> > > >
> >
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