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Re: U20, SR20DE, or 13B

To: Joshua Milton <jt_milton@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: U20, SR20DE, or 13B
From: Steve Harvey <stevenh@execpc.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 17:41:12 -0500
You tell'em Joshua:
Try and get 700 hp out of a datsun engine! It won't happen. The reason
12A's and 13B's got such a bad rap is that the idiots that owned them
didn't realize that the engine consumes oil at a rate of 1 quart per
3000 miles driven. This is the only way to lubricate the internal
components. American drivers don't check the oil. They just gas and go
which meant that their engines fried much quicker than if they had
maintained them.
Steve Harvey

Joshua Milton wrote:

> None taken.  To each there own.
>
> My mother was in labor with me as she was rushed to
> the hospital in a 64 1500.  I was born into Datsuns,
> literally.  Having had my first 240Z at the age 14
> 1/2, and racing a 280Z non california car in SCCA from
> the age of 17 on.  I am as Datsun as they come.  At
> this point I have owned 9 Datsuns and my current 91
> Pathfinder.
>
> I will however tell you that you are _sorely_ mistaken
> on the power.  Maybe the ones youve tried were tired
> or something(bad apex seals).  I personally drove a
> 510 with the 13B swap and racing beat equipment(no
> turbo) and it was faster than most of the cars at the
> CPSCC autox.
>
> By the way when you say heavy steering you cant look
> anyone here in the face and say it has heavier
> steering than a Z!!!  My personal preference for a
> _driving_ car is heavy steering.  I like to feel every
> bump in the road.  Both of my RX7s had _much_ lighter
> steering than a Z and as far as stock cars go, my
> RX7s(12A) could embarass a lot of muscle cars in a
> straight line.  In the canyons where I grew up
> (Mulholland, Decker, Kanan, Latigo, Malibu) the 510 is
> king, but a 510 with a rotary is god.
>
> I normally agree with staying Datsun/Nissan on a swap
> but the power of a rotary motor would push a Roadster
> really well!  And a rebuild on my rotaries meant only
> replacing the apex seals on 2 of the 3 moving parts in
> that motor (2 rotors and a concentric shaft).
> Brilliant!
>
> "Dont knock it till ya try it"
> joshua milton
> 69 1600
> encino, ca
>
> --- Kyle Hagemann <kyle@sonic.net> wrote:
> > From: Joshua Milton <jt_milton@yahoo.com>
> >
> > >I agree.  13B.
> > >
> > >If youve never driven an RX7(any year), try to.
> > They
> > >have phenominal power and weigh less than your
> > average
> > >4cyl.  Ive had 2 (81 & 82) that were stock and they
> > >could perform!
> >
> > Are we on candid camera or something?  LOL!  I can
> > hardly type with
> > the quaking shaking laughing fingers. (no offense,
> > Josh!)
> >
> > When first joining the ranks of sports car drivers,
> > I drove a couple
> > of 1st Gen Rx7's.  I thought they handled great,
> > looked pretty good,
> > and had great brakes.  The steering was heavy as a
> > truck, but a
> > power-steering equipped GSL was very nice.
> >
> > But OH MAN were they slow.  I mean, wow, that's
> > slow!  As in, "honey,
> > would you get out and push?"  I next drove a '73
> > 240Z, and the hook
> > was set, I've been a Datsun fiend ever since.
> >
> > >After that try driving the 93 RX7 and youll swear
> > youre flying a jet
> > fighter.
> >
> > Ooh la-la!  If ever the day comes when I've got the
> > ducats for a
> > "new" car (anything newer than me is a new car;-),
> > that's at the top
> > of the list.... finally, someone got it right.  What
> > impressed me
> > about that machine when it came out was the concious
> > effort the
> > engineers put forth to lower the weight and decrease
> > the size of the
> > vehicle (compare that to the 300ZX).  You don't see
> > a lot of that
> > philosophy these days, do ya!  (..think of the SUV
> > insanity..)
> >
> > But a Rotary in a Roadster?  Yeesh, I dunno.  Sure
> > it'll fit (you can
> > probably fit a 13B in your glovebox;-), but you'll
> > be replacing the
> > engine (not rebuilding) every 40K or so.... in my
> > experience, the
> > Rotaries don't live long... but that's 12A's I'm
> > thinking of, so
> > maybe they fixed em up for the 13B?
> >
> > I'd suggest a VG30 if you're looking for more
> > juice.... much more
> > reliable, better economy (the rotaries are gas hogs,
> > AIR), and it's a
> > Nissan engine.
> >
> > All FWIW, YMMV, BFD, ETC. :-)
> >
> > Kyle
> >        ____  Kyle Hagemann, Born-Again Grease Monkey
> > From Beyond
> >    _.;(____\____    72 240Z, L28, 5spd, poly, etc. -
> > The Z-Beast
> >   |  _ |   |  _'@`, 69 2000, U20, three speed - El
> > Krunchariffic
> >   `-(#)------(#)-<  84 Maxima, 280ZX in sedan
> > disguise - Mr. Max
> > http://www.sonic.net/~kyle 240Z tech info, Win95/8
> > theme, etc.
> >
> >                 "Blessed are the Car Guys."
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
> =====




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