I agree with Pete on this topic - removing the front swaybar will cause more
understeer(push) - to increase oversteer tighten the back end. A lot of your
problems with push are caused by the welded diff - both wheels are driving
at the same revolutions in a turn therefore wherever they are pointed that
is the direction the car will want to go, hence the understeer. If your car
does not have a track rod, axle tramp is going to be a problem - I have
fitted two track rods to my 67.5 and with Koni adj. on hardest setting on
the back, push is not a problem.
regds Rob Hewitson
http:/www.geocities.com/motorcity/speedway/8178
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> [mailto:owner-datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net]On Behalf Of P or T
> Sent: Tuesday, 24 August, 1999 14:00
> To: Miller, Don; Datsun List
> Subject: Re: REmoving Front sway bar
>
>
> Don,
>
> A couple of comments on your predicament - having done this myself in
> the past, removing the front sway bar is likely going to cause even more
> understeer - the front tires will suffer even more positive camber - and
> therefore induce more understeer - with the bar removed.
> Try your experiment, but I feel that this is going in the wrong
> direction....a bigger bar in the front, to prevent excessive positive
> camber while turning, setting static camber to at least 0 degrees,
> perhaps even somewhat negative to begin with, then moderately stiffen up
> your rear end, with some combination of stiffer shocks (in compression,
> not rebound), stiffer springs, and/or a rear sway bar - the goal is to
> increase rear weight transfer, to encourage some 'turn induced'
> oversteer (as opposed to power induced)....one way to get around cones
> in a hurry - be careful, though - with too much weight transfer in the
> rear, the car can be dangerous to drive at higher speeds.
>
> You mention that you have soft shocks in the back in an attempt to
> prevent too much bounce....do you mean power-on wheel hop? If this is
> what is happening, a traction bar, as standard on 2000s is a must, to
> reduce spring 'wind-up', and subsequent hop of the axle. The Watts
> linkage will reduce the tendency for the axle to shift sideways in a
> turn, but won't help with power induced problems in a straight line.
> Stiffer shocks (in compression) in the back are one way to improve
> weight transfer while transitioning into a turn, and therefore help
> increase your oversteer/reduce your understeer.
>
> Pete Long
> '68 (Solex 2L) KA24DE
>
> "Miller, Don" wrote:
> >
> > Traction is handled by a welded rear end. I have the battery
> center mounted
> > in the trunk. 205/50-15 tires, Kumho V700 VictorRacer. I have a watts
> > linkage in the making for more rear end traction but need to
> loosen up the
> > front some. I also run soft shocks on the back to try and keep
> from getting
> > too much bounce. I put the welded rear in because it was much
> cheaper (my
> > friend had it on the shelf from his 1200, same 3.90 ratio) and
> I just had to
> > change the gear set. Limited slips are very spendy. Maybe if I win the
> > Lottery!
> >
> > Don M.
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Mike Poorboy [mailto:bitterrootprop@nidlink.com]
> > > Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 12:26 PM
> > > To: Miller, Don; datsun-roadsters@autox.team.net
> > > Subject: Re: REmoving Front sway bar
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > "Miller, Don" wrote:
> > >
> > > > Whhat's the easiest way to remove the front sway bar?
> > > Remove the middle two
> > > > mounts and then the ends? Do you need to jack up the car to
> > > release tension?
> > > > Looking for safe and quick. I want to be able to try with
> > > and without the
> > > > bar at an event this weekend. Trying to help with the car
> > > pushing. Thanks!
> > > >
> > > > Don Miller
> > > > 68 1600 (finally have all the power to the ground, now just
> > > need to turn!)
> > > > Meridian, ID
> > >
> > > Don,
> > > How did you handle the traction problem?
> > >
> > > I guess turning is important if your autocrossing!!
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > Hayden Lake, Idaho
> > >
>
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