Tony - I don't think that there is 10 people that know how the hole thing works.
I think that what i have experienced this year in Chairing events is, that if we
had a person (chair) that stand at the motorhome all day ( instead of looking
for
the chair on some occasion) he/she could be there to keep things moving, i know
that it's key to making an event go smoothly and then to have about 2 to 3
people
to help out with the rest, like REG, TECH, GRID and SAFETY in the pits.
The communication at GGF is a very big problem at this time, i was
thinking that if we could use the PA system at a very low volume (about the same
volume as someone yelling) could that be ok with the powers to be.? it would
help! and we would have some communication with the pits. At least the people
near the Grid and start could hear what's going on! the starter is the one
person
that needs to hear, so if we need to holed start we can ( and then restart) John
Kelly could you help us out.
As to what Jeremy said about parking sounds great, that would keep
people from speeding up and down the hill. We just park a lot of cars at the
bottom of the hill (and yes i'll park there) so they have to slow down and maybe
cone a lot of the hill so they have to go slowly, i don't know, it sounded good
just my 2c Ben
TONY OZZELLO P802 AWS wrote:
> I wasn't slamming you Peter, I was trying to say that you should
> not have been put in a position to have to deal with that. I agree
> with a previous response that we should make an effort to train
> good trailer crew so that we never have a situation when there's
> less than 2 very experienced people in the trailer so that the
> event moves more smoothly and we continue to expand the list of
> people who can fill these positions. And I'm experienced and
> willing to train and have been training so I'm free to complain ;)
>
> Another place where I think we need more experienced people is with
> both setup and teardown. I know when I chaired my event earlier in
> the year that I would have been lost with Jim there to help pack up
> Moby Dick. I personally vow to learn better how stuff goes into
> the motorhome, but it would be cool if there were 50 people who knew
> it well.
>
> Tony
>
> Peter wrote:
>
> >Tony,
> >
> >I worked the trailer during the second group on Sunday, which is about when
> >we had that 10 minute break between groups you were referring to. Let me
> >tell you that between the four of us in the trailer, there was very little
> >trailer job experience. I had done announcer a couple of times, and our
> >card sorter was great, but that's it. And I really think that we did a good
> >job considering the circumstances, especially our scorer and cone counter,
> >who had never worked the trailer before and *absolutely* never missed a beat
> >or got behind during the 1.5+ hours we were there.
>
> >The fact is though, that we didn't especially know what we were doing going
> >in, but there just wasn't anyone else to help. *I* made the decision to
> >take a few minutes in the beginning to get things sorted out, because once
> >you get behind in the trailer it is very hard to catch up. I also told the
> >entirely rookie trailer crew for group three that if they got behind, they
> >should just hold the start and take care of it rather than screwing up
> >everyone's times and causing even more delays and frustration.
> >
> >I run in the PAX/Street Tire group, which often has 15 or fewer entrants.
> >While we only usually take about 1/2 hour to run, the group we work often
> >takes three times that long to run. Sometimes worker shortages are
> >unavoidable. As for putting experienced people in the trailer, keep in mind
> >that there have to be at least a few experienced people out on course to
> >ensure the safety of our rookie course workers.
> >
> >So I hate to sound like "if you feel the need to complain, then volunteer to
> >do it yourself", but yeah, that's basically what I'm saying.
> >
> >Peter Thana
> >SFR AS-ST
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: adozzell@sc9.intel.com [SMTP:adozzell@sc9.intel.com]
> >> Sent: Monday, August 28, 2000 3:40 PM
> >> To: Kevin_Stevens@Bigfoot.com; ba-autox@autox.team.net
> >> Subject: Re: 2000 Winter Slush Series-revised
> >>
> >> Kevin highlights one of my pet peeves with recent events.
> >> The trailer should be able to handle a 15 second overlap
> >> with no more than 3 people in the trailer if they know what
> >> they are doing and are paying attention. A solid trailer cew
> >> is essential to a smooth event and maybe we should restrict the
> >> trailer crew to those folks that can do the job.
> >> At the 8/13 GGF event Jim Ochi and I ran the trailer alone and
> >> we averaged 21s overlaps for our run group and we had time to
> >> hold the start and run out onto course to reset cones that had
> >> been knocked over and missed by the crew on course.
> >> I can buy the safety argument for overlap times and I can buy
> >> the argument that you have to wait for folks to finish their
> >> conversation before running to pick up a downed cone, but I
> >> don't agree that the trailer cannot keep up.
> >>
> >> I'm hoping that doesn't sound too harsh but the trailer hurts
> >> our events on a number of occasions.
> >>
> >> Tony
> >> (still in nomex)
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BEN
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