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RE: RE: Possible engine swap for Tr6

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Subject: RE: RE: Possible engine swap for Tr6
From: "Creamer, Mark" <CreamerM@cintas.com>
Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 13:30:55 -0400
I think the website Tim is referring to is www.britishv8.org

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-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Holbrook [mailto:tjh173@yahoo.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2002 1:04 PM
To: 6pack@autox.team.net
Subject: Fwd: RE: Possible engine swap for Tr6

While engine swaps sound like fun sometimes (I love the idea of the
Honda S2000 engine in a Spit - 8500 rpm redline, 240hp, and Honda
reliability, in a car that weighs less than a ton and handles like
crazy!!), you definitely want to do some research before tackling a job
this big.  I would strongly recommend reading some Grassroots
Motorsports back-issues.  They discuss this topic quite a bit, and did
an extensive (and exPensive!) series on putting a Mazda rotary into a
Spit.  Great result, but tons of work, frustration, and MONEY.  I would
also recommend checking out Dan Master's newsletters and club dedicated
to engine swaps in British cars.  There's a website, but I forget what
it is....  You can get around 170hp out of the Triumph 6 cylinder
without too much problem (head work, header, triple strombergs, cam,
roller rockers), for about $2,500.  This may be a bargain when compared
to an engine swap, and you'll have a fun TR6!  But if you are looking
for serious, reliable horespower (200+), my opinion is you'll need an
engine swap.   

Tim Holbrook
1971 TR6


--- "Vink, Graham" <vinkg@fleishman.com> wrote:
> From: "Vink, Graham" <vinkg@fleishman.com>
> To: "'Ed McGuirk'" <emcguirk@optonline.net>, 6pack@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: Possible engine swap for Tr6
> Date: Tue, 18 Jun 2002 11:42:22 -0500
> 
> re rotary engine in a TR6: very interesting idea! (I own an RX-7)
> 
> on the RX-7 user boards, there is occasional discussion about putting
> a
> turbo Buick v-6 into an RX-7, which many of us regard as the ultimate
> heresy. 
> 
> but no question that it would be a lot of horsepower!
> 
> Graham
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ed McGuirk [mailto:emcguirk@optonline.net]
> Sent: Monday, June 17, 2002 10:57 PM
> To: 6pack@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Possible engine swap for Tr6
> 
> 
> The truth is that any well done engine swap into a TR6 will have to
> replace 
> almost the whole drivetrain especially at 300 HP. There will be
> almost 
> nothing left but the shell.
> 
> I've got a couple of fetishes. I want less weight and more HP. If I
> was 
> going to try it, I would probably want to give a supercharged rotary
> engine 
> a try. That would be about 300HP and a few hundred pounds lighter. (I
> 
> already know the exhaust won't sound right though)
> 
> There are so many British cars I would think about butchering for
> this idea 
> but I have kind of a soft spot for keeping the TR6 relatively intact.
> 
> But then, I'm just nuts.
> Ed McGuirk
> 
> At 07:13 PM 6/17/2002 -0600, you wrote:
> >Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 19:42:54 -0400
> >From: "James Franks" <jimmble@adelphia.net>
> >Subject: Re: Possible engine swap for Tr6
> >
> >No offense Dick, but I have to disagree.
> >
> >The weakest links I see in a stock car (after thrust-washers, clutch
> and
> >tranny) are in the rear end/ rear axle bearing components. That is
> based
> >on failures on NON- modified cars. Although there are a few folks
> using
> >big motors in TR6 cars with the stock back portions, I feel it is
> >ill-advised. A lot of the present day racers ( bless you all) 
> changed
> >these components due to sometimes spectacular failure........
> imagine
> >loosing a back wheel when the axle shears in the outer hub! One
> other
> >note:Kastner and company used MODIFIED axles and Volvo halfshafts on
> >their successful racers.
> >
> >  One of the other posters mentioned the PI cars having 150 HP. That
> is
> >true. It is also true that 150 HP coming thru a 3:45 rear transmits
> less
> >stress on the system than 150 HP thru a 3:71 rear. All PI cars came
> with
> >a 3:45 rear, and most US cars come with a 3.71. I would also respond
> by
> >asking how much is too much power?  :^)  I personally am after 300
> HP,
> >and that is absolutely out of the question with the stock engine. I
> am
> >not rich, and seeking 160 stretches the pocketbook.
> >
> >Ryan may be OK with Corvair axles and an early diff with a hardened
> ring
> >and pinion. In addition, I certainly would beef up the diff mounts
> on
> >the frame. At a minimum I would talk to the folks at
> >http://www.pond.com/~britcars/ to see what their experience
> recommends.
> >
> >Good Luck however you choose to go Ryan
> >
> >Jim
> >
> >PS
> >One of the things to check on that combo Ryan,  is where the shifter
> >ends up in the passenger compartment. Take a tape measure to the JY
> and
> >measure from the back of the motor to the center of the shifter on
> the
> >Supra, and compare to the TR to get a general idea. Ergonomics
> really
> >affect the end result in any conversion. That's why there aren't
> many
> >daily driver Cobra's ;^0
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