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1. Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: Loren Williams <lsw@southwind.net>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 17:08:46 -0500
I like the idea. I think it's perfectly rational. I'm not sure 5% is an accurate figure. As much as anyone who's spent the bucks on those fancy autocross tires will hate to admit it, they probably on
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00346.html (9,013 bytes)

2. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: "David Green" <talon-95@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:05:10 -0500
Those "fancy" autox tires are cheaper than most of the better street tires (in the larger sizes/diameters at least). For example: (prices from the Tire Rack) 205/50/15's: Pilot MXX3's: $179 Pzero's:
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00350.html (8,363 bytes)

3. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: Loren Williams <lsw@southwind.net>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 18:26:45 -0500
Initial cost may be comparable, but if I drove the Kumho R-tires on the street (which I'm actually considering for summer use only), I'd get less than half as many miles out of them, especially if I
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00352.html (8,940 bytes)

4. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: "David Green" <talon-95@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:01:06 -0500
Yep, it's a better deal with smaller tires. I used to autox on street tires. The one thing I didn't like was that my street tires were always rounded off and beat up (my crappy driving didn't help of
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00354.html (8,681 bytes)

5. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: Loren Williams <lsw@southwind.net>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:16:36 -0500
This is what a lot of newbies see as well. But, once you get the car set up correctly, and learn how to drive it smoothly within its limits, and get tires that are made to DRIVE (not "ride") on... th
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00355.html (9,130 bytes)

6. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: "David Green" <talon-95@worldnet.att.net>
Date: Mon, 10 May 1999 19:40:52 -0500
I do agree with the 2-3%. I tried swapping between my R1's and D40M2's last year at Salina. I got within 1-1.5 seconds of the R1's with the D40's on a 35-40 second course. The D40's are/were a good t
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00358.html (8,675 bytes)

7. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: RacerRay52@aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:25:10 EDT
<< Those "fancy" autox tires are cheaper than most of the better street tires (in the larger sizes/diameters at least).>> That is probably generally true as long as you are talking about huge tires a
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00397.html (8,518 bytes)

8. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: RacerRay52@aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:29:54 EDT
<< I do agree with the 2-3%. I tried swapping between my R1's and D40M2's last year at Salina. I got within 1-1.5 seconds of the R1's with the D40's on a 35-40 second course. The D40's are/were a goo
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00399.html (8,637 bytes)

9. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: "Jay Mitchell" <jemitchell@compuserve.com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:32:33 -0500
times find that some data is about right. All this is wonderful for local events, but it will never accurately even out the differences between street and autox tires. The actual advantage of sticky
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00405.html (9,796 bytes)

10. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: "Justin Hughes" <ka1ult@channel1.com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:48:42 -0400
[Disclaimer: The following post is a JOKE. You know, humor! If you can't deal with that, please press your DELETE key now.] OK, how about this solution to settle the handicap system once and for all:
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00406.html (9,170 bytes)

11. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: RacerRay52@aol.com
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:43:24 EDT
<< What you apparently want is an index that perfectly compensates for car/tire performance differences and guarantees that the "best" driver wins, which is not possible. What if you get what you're
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00407.html (9,091 bytes)

12. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: Gail/Sid deLeon <deleon@gs.verio.net>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 12:06:22 -0500
LEARN TO DRIVE BETTER Your ""i" class is not needed!!
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00408.html (9,538 bytes)

13. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: "richard nichols" <rnichol1@san.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 10:35:30 -0700
Gonna have to use more critical thinking, guys, when considering others' ideas. "Critical thinking", as in "look beneath the surface". As I understand Ray's original thought, if I may "reflect" what
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00409.html (10,197 bytes)

14. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: Mark Sirota <msirota@isc.upenn.edu>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:44:05 -0400
I don't understand your dislike for the annual revisions of the PAX index (and every other popular index system). The index is an approximation based on limited data. Every year, there are changes in
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00411.html (9,003 bytes)

15. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: Randy Chase <randyc2@home.com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 11:37:15 -0700
Yes, but what I have seen is "looking beneath the surface". The difference I see Richard is that you are seeing based on your situation with your car...which is looking maybe a bit too deep. Others s
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00419.html (12,755 bytes)

16. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: "Jay Mitchell" <jemitchell@compuserve.com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:52:05 -0500
Richard sez: others' We're doing that, but I just don't share the belief that his ideas will help. I think he on street rules?". Ray's been referring to HS as if that's his present class. driving adv
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00421.html (11,906 bytes)

17. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: "richard nichols" <rnichol1@san.rr.com>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 13:21:38 -0700
Jay, I appreciate how your response was responsive to my own points, and I mean that seriously, not sarcastically. :) If you noticed, in my own earlier response to this thread, I said I'd learned eno
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00429.html (13,957 bytes)

18. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: Loren Williams <lsw@southwind.net>
Date: Tue, 11 May 1999 18:27:41 -0500
I could have you or anyone else in the country drive my car with the best street tires available (shaved if you wish), and they might do better than I did, but they still would not win against a simi
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00438.html (9,025 bytes)

19. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: RacerRay52@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 02:40:26 EDT
<< I don't understand your dislike for the annual revisions of the PAX index (and every other popular index system). The index is an approximation based on limited data. Every year, there are changes
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00451.html (9,094 bytes)

20. Re: Street Tire Handicap (score: 1)
Author: RacerRay52@aol.com
Date: Wed, 12 May 1999 02:47:33 EDT
<< Ray, how are your times? What car do you drive exactly? What region? >> My times are not always that bad. I live in Norfolk Va and run with either SCCA Old Dominion Region [they haven't run much l
/html/autox/1999-05/msg00452.html (8,388 bytes)


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